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so you haven't uncovered the Illuminati

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being a pop star right have you tried

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well that yeah I have I genuinely out

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I'm you you know I'm the people watching

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this now

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and um I have a fortunate position where

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I could be on the inside to see if

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anything's going on you know there's a

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suggestion from what's here is all these

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different phenomena that you wouldn't

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normally associate with each other UFOs

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and Poltergeist Poltergeist and Bigfoot

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Bigfoot and cattle mutilations all those

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things in one place

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Secrets cover-ups and strange phenomena

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UFOs and ideas that challenge reality

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itself all these Mysteries all this time

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are we ever going to get to the bottom

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of these my name is George Knapp I dig

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into news stories that others can't or

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won't I'm Jeremy Corbell and for some

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reason people tell me things they

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this is weaponized we are so jazzed

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because of the guest we have today I'm

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going to embarrass him before we

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introduce him so

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if you think about the top recording

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artists in the history of popular music

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people who have had the artists who have

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there's only two acts that are above

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that one is the Beatles and one is

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Robbie Williams who's here hello

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everybody Williams what's up man yeah

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what a um lovely to see you guys great

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to see you incredible to see you guys

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and you know what a like bizarre

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statistic and wonderful that it happened

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to me but it just it it constantly feels

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surreal that um I'm attached to that

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statistic I'm just reading that list and

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realizing where you are in that Pantheon

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of great art artists oh my gosh it would

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be overwhelming it must feel like it's

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out of body kind of a thing for you yeah

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not to sound grandiose but this is

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biopic being made about me right now and

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I was there this year being in a bit of

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it and I was sat

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in the makeup room and the man that's

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playing my father is sat next to me the

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woman that is playing my mother is there

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and then my the woman that's playing my

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grandma is there and then there's all of

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the hair that I've had from the age of

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you know eight onwards and then my old

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band mates because I was in a boy band

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from the age of 16 to 20. there's like

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my boy bands like one of them had

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dreadlocks so there's the dreadlocks and

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like there's one of the one of the guys

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chins a prosthetic chin right next to me

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as I'm having my makeup done and it's

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just the most bizarre surreal experience

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like being invited to the best birthday

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party ever that somehow you don't feel

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as though you deserve because of the

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whole charlatan syndrome or whatever but

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that that statistic in itself

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you know thank God that happened to me

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feel I feel really lucky

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yeah man I just like it's so cool to

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have you here um

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after we became friends like I I didn't

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review on the Sunset Strip looks like

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you're fighting yourself I thought it

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was a boxing match that album cover you

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put out but I had not kind of known

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about your music I met you through uh

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George and we became friends and then I

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started listening and he was like look

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Robbie's you know one of these top

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musical artists like check out what he's

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done you've done so many different

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styles and types of music and you even

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send me sometimes like little you know

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songs you've done that are just so

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different like all these different types

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of music do you I mean maybe you've

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asked benasses a thousand times but like

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what is it that like motivates you to do

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these different styles of music what is

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it that that you really love about what

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life you know I I wasn't academic

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and um we didn't have dyslexia when I

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was growing up so I was just stupid you

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were okay you know that wasn't thought

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of in the 80s in Stoke on Trump where

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nearly 16 with no qualifications and

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England yeah Stoke-on-Trent is five

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small towns all put together you know

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it's the uh I suppose we're rednecks

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okay you know and I auditioned for a boy

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band and I got in wow and uh you know

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huge and I find myself in this place

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where I'm going well I got lucky I did

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this I found and wrote this song called

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angels that became massive and gave me a

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career what else is it that I can do

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where where you know it's like I I get

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bored in one box so if I'm

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lucky enough to be able to write in this

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style how else can I write what can I

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paint

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what clothes can I make what building

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can I build what TV show can I write

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what film can I write you know while I'm

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here I might as well explore absolutely

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everything that I can I noticed that

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when I you know went over to Robbie's

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place and he's like hey do you want to

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paint I'm like yeah sure I'm not really

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good at it but let's do it and and he's

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like we go into this garage and there's

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just like hundreds and hundreds of

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there's a craziness to it but it's not

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too crazy

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can't draw I can't paint

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that looks Arty out of these recent

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paintings everything that you're seeing

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is two weeks old everything you know

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these didn't exist two weeks ago that's

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yeah that's what's impressive man like I

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was just coming over to see you and

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you're like oh you want to paint I'm

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like yeah I want to paint and I had no

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idea I was going to step in and you've

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just been like Mass producing just like

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unleashing yeah and it's been a fun

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process I had no idea what the what you

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meant you want to paint it sounded fun

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but it's been really cool to see you

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just you just go for it without

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hesitation which is cool

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you know it's like I I haven't spent any

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honing any sort of skill to do with this

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medium when I left I was in a boy band

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British thing to put yourself down by

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the way right you know so

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and I hope something sticks I like this

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most of the things that have happened to

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me is when I've been

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great and they're so weird that you need

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to explain whatever you know it's a

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sober State this happened so you said I

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don't know what I saw but you do know

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what you saw you saw UFOs one that you

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could throw a tennis ball at you saw

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time distortions when you've looked out

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over Egypt I mean I forgot about that

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yeah it's like a break in reality two

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different times that happened at the

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ranch there's a tear in the sky

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yeah I've yeah I've seen everything

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disappear and there'd be something else

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and as an artist do I do film and that

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kind of thing I understand that idea

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where you just you feel compelled to

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like get [\h__\h] out is that kind of part

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of it for you is that you've got some

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[\h__\h] you just got to get out through ART

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alcoholic and left untethered that sort

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of energy and that sort of

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yeah that energy

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marijuana booze all the good stuff all

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the great stuff you know when it works

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it's great when it doesn't it doesn't

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stop working for me a long time ago yeah

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but like there there is still a an

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addict that's inside of me yeah and and

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it beams out on a day-to-day basis and

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being creative it's a superpower what

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does that addict want

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uh more yeah more of everything yeah you

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know and like if if it's if it's more

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images that I'm creating or if it's more

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lyrics that I'm writing or if it's more

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Melodies that I'm coming up with or if

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it's more ideas for businesses then it's

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good for my family and it's good for me

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but if it's the opposite of that it's

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terrible for my family and it's terrible

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for me and you see you seem super like I

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can relate like I'm super [\h__\h]

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curious about stuff and so it seems like

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you know there's this insatiable need

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you know to to learn more and to try new

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things and it could be a curse or a

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blessing but it really does drive your

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art doesn't it or it drives it drives

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the absolutely everything but it's also

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a um a tight a type wire that I'm

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walking at all times that I could always

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fall off of and that's either thrilling

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or terrifying

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but yeah I've got my techno project

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called loft house that I'm working on

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that's um you go and check it out on

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YouTube I've done the swing stuff

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so you sent me this video one time and

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you're like I mean I it was crazy

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there's Robbie he I don't know what

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you're doing but there's just tons of

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young people around you and you're just

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like dancing in this room is that part

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of the Techno thing you just sent me

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some video by text no no what that was

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that was that was me with the England

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squad did I I sent you that soccer the

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soccer team yeah football team no that

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was different I'm talking about another

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video so what's the Techno thing exactly

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um two of my friends that I I work with

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on an album called take the crown

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started to really get into techno and um

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they kept sending me these tracks over

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and then

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you know nothing was happening during

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covid so I sat down and wrote 27

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Melodies and 27 vocals for 27 songs and

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it became a something and it became a

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something that wasn't me but it was me

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and uh we decided to form a collective

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called loft house and then loft house

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have supported me on tour and so I get

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to support me I I wasn't on stage but um

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yeah that's that's one of the projects

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my origin story with Rob is a guy named

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Mark Allen Mark Allen created Above Top

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Secret this incredibly successful

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website covers UFOs things of that sort

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and I had met him at a UFO conference we

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hit it off he spilled a glass of wine on

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me and we were friends ever since and

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then he was telling me about this guy

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named Robbie Williams well I've heard

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that name I I couldn't think of any of

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the songs he said yeah you got to meet

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him we've got on these trips UFO

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Adventures you got to meet him and so at

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some point I get a call

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um an invitation to go to Rob's house

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it's in Mulholland Estates and he was

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incredibly gracious this house is

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fabulous in this great neighborhood

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first day I'm there we take a little

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walk down the neighborhood and uh Rob is

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saying okay that's the guy that lives

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across the street his name is slash he's

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a guitarist and then we're five houses

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down it's Paris Hilton's house we walked

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down to the end of the hill and a guy

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gets out of a car with a couple of

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striking blondes that's Charlie Sheen

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and a couple of his angels and we go

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around the corner and he was looking at

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a piece of property I think and he says

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oh yeah that's that's Tom Jones's house

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right there what the hell in the

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neighborhood where did I walk into with

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this yeah and the house was beautiful

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the property is the view was great and I

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was blown away I guess it has a history

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that house has been owned by some pretty

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interesting people yeah none that I can

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remember now but yeah

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Clint Black I used to own it and then uh

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DJ Khalid

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uh he bought it from me we're in a

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different place now but um yeah so so

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yeah yeah the news represents another

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house say that you're homeless so come

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on Rob tell us okay okay so uh yeah it

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it it's interesting what

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how tabloids work in general you know

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it's like today we will do this

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um podcast and then something will be

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written that will be out of context yeah

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and uh I'm I'm all right with that now

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it's just like oh okay uh but we um I am

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uh never in one place

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very long because of how I work and

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where I work my my job takes me

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everywhere but California and North

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America and

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um the kids are homeschooled because of

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it we've got like this Choice their kids

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are either homeschooled or they never

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get to meet Daddy

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so

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um we I do have homes

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plural yeah yeah but you know it it's

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getting to the point where the kids need

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a home singular

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because they need to go to school they

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need to socialize and they're missing

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out on an awful lot

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so when I did that podcast whenever I

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spoke about that I was probably in I

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don't know Albania or Lithuania or

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wherever I was doing whatever it was

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that I was doing right and um you know

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you can feel

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when you move so much homeless in your

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heart so I I guess that's what I was

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talking about I I don't even know what

361
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that was but yeah no I I'm good you know

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my card my cardboard box is so fire I'm

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gonna dox myself that house I'm talking

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about was that was 10 12 years ago and

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then there was another house here in

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Southern California any house that has a

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name that's a big house you know that

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was you've been to that property yeah it

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was beautiful I mean you've built such a

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beautiful life for yourself I think you

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know coming in and you know meeting your

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family and um your wife where I went to

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high school with I mean that's pretty

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crazy and just I really appreciate the

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way that you've kind of built your life

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I can't imagine what it's like having to

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run around the world every time we

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FaceTime whatever you're in a different

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country in a different place but you

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like that right you like the job of what

381
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you do or I do now it's good and bad

382
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yeah I do now because of the children

383
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yeah you know like before because of the

384
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addictions and because of the

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the malady of who I am as as a as a

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human you know

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um

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if you mix Fame with extreme sensitivity

389
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and

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that then with extreme success that you

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don't think you could you deserve and

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then you mix that with tabloids and

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um you know just stuff

394
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it can and it can break you and I

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challenge anybody to

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um point to a very successful hyper

397
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famous person in whichever country

398
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they're in and go that's a normal person

399
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that survived it and had a great time

400
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everybody it happens to everybody so

401
00:17:01,310 --> 00:16:59,040
when it does happen you're like why am I

402
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doing this for it's mental and then the

403
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kids arrived and when the kids arrived

404
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all four of them

405
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I then saw it as a job

406
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and it's the best job in the world and I

407
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have purpose before

408
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there was no purpose apart from

409
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bouncing off hotel rooms being lonely

410
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seeking out people to spend the night

411
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with and and depression and then when

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the kids come

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you know I have complete

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uh I'm completely driven to facilitate

415
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something for them since they've arrived

416
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I see it as a job and now I see it as a

417
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job it's the best job in the world and

418
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I'm having a lot of fun we talked about

419
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this on the way over here what it would

420
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be like to be you where you're under

421
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microscope your entire life from the

422
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time you're a teenager until now

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everything you do everything you say is

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hyper analyzed and kicked around and

425
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explored

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distorted in media reports

427
00:18:08,750 --> 00:18:06,419
we have a tiny little sliver of

428
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familiarity with minor celebrity hood

429
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and a small pond what it would be like

430
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to be under that level of

431
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um of uh

432
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investigation for your whole life

433
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what you originally do is you get really

434
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hurt by it

435
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and then because I'm where I'm from

436
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where I'm from

437
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you know what we would do as people that

438
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go to the pub is fight

439
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and um so you want to fight everybody

440
00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:40,860
and everything

441
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mentally and physically

442
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you know you also

443
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I also know that I can't actually do

444
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that because I'll go to prison I'll get

445
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in a lot of trouble

446
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so then you

447
00:19:01,730 --> 00:18:59,640
you fight with your Wiles if you have

448
00:19:04,909 --> 00:19:01,740
any Wiles to fight with

449
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and then eventually you realize that you

450
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fight in a losing battle

451
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um and then you become defeated

452
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and then you accept

453
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and I've been in acceptance for

454
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um quite a while now and I've got to say

455
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that acceptance for for what it is

456
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um

457
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is an incredible place to be you know

458
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all that resentment and bitterness and

459
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anger towards this machine that happens

460
00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:35,160
to you

461
00:19:39,710 --> 00:19:37,860
um only breaks you

462
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,720
how much of it do you pay attention to

463
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yeah we were we saw this headline today

464
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Robbie Williams is homeless doesn't know

465
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where he's going to go and and since

466
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we've known you we see that a regular

467
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stream of those kind of headlines that

468
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are ridiculous it's clickbait well look

469
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look you know

470
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for the for a long period in my life I

471
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was what is considered box office for

472
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tabloids in the media you know it's like

473
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my name

474
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shifted copy solved things and

475
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um

476
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that bright light that once Shone on me

477
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intently where they came to seek me at

478
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every opportunity

479
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um that was incredibly uncomfortable

480
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but

481
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um since then that light has moved on

482
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and gone on to other people and also the

483
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culture is different now since there's

484
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been inquiries about

485
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how and what the business does and how

486
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it goes about doing it the people that

487
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do that stuff have had to behave in a

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different way so there's still things

489
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happening to people out there that are

490
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dreadfully unkind and illegal

491
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but it happens in a different way now

492
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and what happens for me as a 49 year old

493
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pop star

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you know it's incredibly

495
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I can deal with it you know it's

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um

497
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those sort of things are kind of like

498
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water off a duck's back but from

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19 you know I joined take that in 1990

500
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um and then I had a s uh the solo career

501
00:21:26,810 --> 00:21:23,700
took off in 96. I would say from 96 to

502
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you know it was just I became a hermit

503
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2005. is this when you're wearing that

504
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I'm a couple I bought a cashmere caftan

505
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I grew a beard because I I saw um I saw

506
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when Paul McCartney left the Beatles you

507
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know we grew a beard and bought a farm

508
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and I thought it looked really cool so I

509
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grew a beard and uh I looked like a

510
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serial killer and that was when what

511
00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:58,200
happened was was like okay I think my

512
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job's killing me so I'm gonna stop doing

513
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my job

514
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but then quite quickly I realized that

515
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apart from growing a beard that's not a

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career I quite I realized that um you

517
00:22:18,169 --> 00:22:15,659
know I needed a purpose and then I

518
00:22:20,450 --> 00:22:18,179
understood that adage that you know if

519
00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:20,460
you if you do if you can get paid for

520
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something that you love you never work a

521
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day in your life

522
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and I thought what do I love whoa I love

523
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,159
the Paranormal you know I love the

524
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:31,440
Paranormal I love this stuff you know I

525
00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:34,080
love this thing that we're into what is

526
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it that I can do in that Avenue

527
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you know be it big or be it small that

528
00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:43,500
can give me purpose where I don't have

529
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to go and stand in front of stadiums

530
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,179
full of people and find it really

531
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strange because like having 80 000

532
00:22:53,570 --> 00:22:51,780
people staring at you yeah it's really

533
00:22:55,789 --> 00:22:53,580
[\h__\h] it's really odd I can imagine

534
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:55,799
it's just really odd yeah it's beautiful

535
00:23:01,070 --> 00:22:58,799
but you know it's 80 000 people staring

536
00:23:05,220 --> 00:23:01,080
at you now it's now it's wonderful but

537
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:05,230
back then it was just like why what

538
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[Music]

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my boss

540
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:34,070
[Music]

541
00:23:58,970 --> 00:23:56,640
as an introvert is that just like

542
00:24:01,490 --> 00:23:58,980
on the core of that when you started

543
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,500
having all of this These Eyes on you as

544
00:24:05,090 --> 00:24:03,360
an introverted person which you say you

545
00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:05,100
are right I mean you are pretty much

546
00:24:10,430 --> 00:24:07,980
introverted is that just [\h__\h] bizarre

547
00:24:12,169 --> 00:24:10,440
well I I'm I'm an introvert in real life

548
00:24:13,310 --> 00:24:12,179
and I play an extrovert in my

549
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:13,320
professional life

550
00:24:18,830 --> 00:24:16,860
and uh yeah it it because that my my

551
00:24:19,850 --> 00:24:18,840
thing when I get on stage is I'm I'm

552
00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:19,860
full of

553
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:23,100
bravado and piss and Vega and and like

554
00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:26,400
big you know things and you know look at

555
00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:28,740
me I'm rock hard and yeah you know it's

556
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:31,860
like that is not that's not who I am but

557
00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:34,559
that's what I do professionally and you

558
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:36,840
mix this with this mask that you put on

559
00:24:43,130 --> 00:24:40,080
and while you've got this mask on you're

560
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,140
in charge of facilitating an energy and

561
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,120
emotions for a stadium full of people

562
00:24:49,610 --> 00:24:47,760
that are all looking at you yeah like

563
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:49,620
the mixture of that is

564
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:53,039
really weird so so you're in your

565
00:24:57,890 --> 00:24:55,860
interest in the abnormal oh yeah so I'll

566
00:24:59,630 --> 00:24:57,900
go back to what I was saying so like you

567
00:25:02,750 --> 00:24:59,640
know I needed a purpose what was going

568
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:02,760
to do so I I stuck my head above the

569
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:05,640
parapid to go yeah I'm into this

570
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:09,360
and back in 2006

571
00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:12,840
before the event of all of a sudden the

572
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:16,260
press and the media not poo poo in this

573
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:20,400
subject they were heavily involved with

574
00:25:25,070 --> 00:25:22,860
finding it ridiculous yeah and

575
00:25:27,409 --> 00:25:25,080
dismissing it and

576
00:25:29,630 --> 00:25:27,419
uh shaming people that would even

577
00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:29,640
mention it and when I put my head above

578
00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:32,940
the parapet in like 2006 I went on a new

579
00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:35,880
aliens there you go that's the clip yeah

580
00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:38,100
they give you give them a new reason to

581
00:25:41,810 --> 00:25:39,900
kick you in the teeth yeah yeah I

582
00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:41,820
remember like leaving the house one day

583
00:25:47,149 --> 00:25:44,580
and like a newspaper had sent a

584
00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:47,159
journalist to stand up outside my house

585
00:25:52,490 --> 00:25:51,000
with uh in a green alien suit oh which

586
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:52,500
was just like

587
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:56,159
um yeah maybe maybe I maybe this yeah it

588
00:26:02,330 --> 00:25:59,520
just felt shameful so unfortunately

589
00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:02,340
I didn't take up the uh

590
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,860
the mantle of

591
00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:06,960
you know what you're doing so

592
00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:08,100
brilliantly

593
00:26:13,549 --> 00:26:11,220
you didn't just get that interest out of

594
00:26:15,169 --> 00:26:13,559
the blue you had some personal things

595
00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:15,179
that happened that that opened that door

596
00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:17,580
had you listened to coast to coast is

597
00:26:20,930 --> 00:26:19,320
that have you heard of George yeah all

598
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:20,940
this so you get you're like sitting

599
00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:22,440
there listening to Coast to Coast like

600
00:26:30,529 --> 00:26:25,320
me being like oh that's cool right yeah

601
00:26:32,690 --> 00:26:30,539
I mean like George still to this day uh

602
00:26:36,409 --> 00:26:32,700
you know even with our with our

603
00:26:39,409 --> 00:26:36,419
friendship I'm you know I I bow down

604
00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:39,419
because you know that um

605
00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:43,140
those years of listening to Coast to

606
00:26:49,310 --> 00:26:46,440
Coast nightly and becoming a member of

607
00:26:51,649 --> 00:26:49,320
the being able to download the four

608
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:51,659
different segments and you know that

609
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,720
would be my tour taken care of you know

610
00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:56,720
that that's where I would go I would

611
00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:00,179
disappear into your voice and your

612
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:03,240
guests and how that you how you went

613
00:27:08,769 --> 00:27:07,320
about it and how you gave Credence to

614
00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:08,779
these stories

615
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:12,120
uh be in the being if they're fanciful

616
00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:16,559
or far-fetched or unbelievable or you

617
00:27:22,490 --> 00:27:19,740
know just given you your voice and your

618
00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:22,500
mind giving that open forum for these

619
00:27:27,049 --> 00:27:25,020
people to talk

620
00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:27,059
um was a great place for me to seek

621
00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:30,600
solace in something at the time that was

622
00:27:37,250 --> 00:27:34,860
very incredibly Niche you know it makes

623
00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:37,260
you feel as though you're in a gang

624
00:27:42,529 --> 00:27:39,500
right yeah yeah

625
00:27:45,649 --> 00:27:42,539
so you're in a gang and it also you know

626
00:27:49,930 --> 00:27:45,659
with the um seriousness of George's

627
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:49,940
background it gave Credence to your own

628
00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:52,559
fanciful thoughts that something is up

629
00:27:55,850 --> 00:27:54,360
right that's you keep saying that to me

630
00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:55,860
something is up it's the greatest thing

631
00:27:59,210 --> 00:27:57,419
you're talking about UFOs rabbits are

632
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,220
something's up whenever we get deep into

633
00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:01,440
it that's where he ends on it and I just

634
00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:03,720
you know the idea that we would maybe

635
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:05,340
we've had experiences that we can

636
00:28:09,409 --> 00:28:07,919
explain and as you say people like to

637
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:09,419
Market and that kind of thing what

638
00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:11,640
George has done all these years was

639
00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:13,740
provide a way that people could talk

640
00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:15,240
about it and just say this happened to

641
00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:17,460
me I I can't explain it but this

642
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:19,140
happened to me and you know most people

643
00:28:22,250 --> 00:28:20,460
are being honest that something happened

644
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,260
to them that that is more common that

645
00:28:27,049 --> 00:28:23,760
people are being honest but just having

646
00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:27,059
it heard and listened to and not

647
00:28:31,390 --> 00:28:28,919
ridiculed not mocked but like what what

648
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:31,400
is up with this something is up it

649
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,840
affected a lot of people in a lot of

650
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,760
ways you know that you gave that that

651
00:28:40,490 --> 00:28:37,679
form and that platform it did for me too

652
00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:40,500
for sure so you have had some

653
00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:43,500
experiences that you can't explain and

654
00:28:49,070 --> 00:28:46,520
so have I and and people have and and

655
00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:49,080
these were these things that motivated

656
00:28:54,370 --> 00:28:52,620
you to kind of look into this I mean

657
00:28:56,750 --> 00:28:54,380
um well

658
00:28:59,210 --> 00:28:56,760
I always think it's like where where

659
00:29:03,350 --> 00:28:59,220
does this first come from chicken or egg

660
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:03,360
chicken or egg and why are you so

661
00:29:09,950 --> 00:29:06,960
motivated to it's it's my everyday you

662
00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:09,960
know I'm checking in with UFO Twitter or

663
00:29:15,769 --> 00:29:13,140
you are checking in with you guys or you

664
00:29:18,769 --> 00:29:15,779
have a secret UFO account no no actually

665
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,779
yes oh no I I I actually don't I should

666
00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:21,120
do you just read it yeah yeah I just I

667
00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:22,500
just read it

668
00:29:27,710 --> 00:29:26,820
um and you know YouTube which is

669
00:29:31,690 --> 00:29:27,720
um

670
00:29:34,669 --> 00:29:31,700
uh scarily I would say for the last

671
00:29:38,090 --> 00:29:34,679
three to four years of sort of clamp

672
00:29:39,889 --> 00:29:38,100
down on the oddest stuff the fringiest

673
00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:39,899
of Fringe stuff

674
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:42,600
and you have to go other other places to

675
00:29:50,450 --> 00:29:46,880
seek it out now uh but from like

676
00:29:52,669 --> 00:29:50,460
2005 2006 when it was the Wild Wild West

677
00:29:55,970 --> 00:29:52,679
on the internet

678
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:55,980
um you know it was a wonderful place to

679
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:00,000
go and listen to and where I stand on it

680
00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:03,840
all is my my mind is my mind is open and

681
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:05,880
everything is on the table everything is

682
00:30:12,169 --> 00:30:08,159
on the table you know

683
00:30:15,649 --> 00:30:12,179
um I don't believe in anything you know

684
00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:15,659
but um if people want to come and say

685
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,340
that this happened to them I'll go oh

686
00:30:21,169 --> 00:30:19,200
well that's interesting you know but but

687
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,179
I I'm not going to go it's not a hill

688
00:30:25,370 --> 00:30:23,039
that I'm going to go and stand and die

689
00:30:27,289 --> 00:30:25,380
on right right you know it's like well I

690
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:27,299
think this and we you know this is

691
00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:28,799
definitely happening because nobody

692
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:31,140
knows you're right it remains a mystery

693
00:30:34,490 --> 00:30:32,640
a lot of us but you you've had a couple

694
00:30:36,649 --> 00:30:34,500
experiences that when you've told them

695
00:30:41,769 --> 00:30:36,659
to me that there was there was so

696
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:45,049
no no well no which one the two big

697
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:47,220
stories there's like two big stories

698
00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:51,360
many many many like that's odd you know

699
00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:53,820
Chicken and the Egg first back to that

700
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:55,860
it's like where does this all come from

701
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:58,799
so I grew up and just outside of my

702
00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:01,440
mother's bedroom was a book a shelf of

703
00:31:05,889 --> 00:31:03,480
books and

704
00:31:09,710 --> 00:31:05,899
um and those books was

705
00:31:11,630 --> 00:31:09,720
folklore and fairy tales and I think my

706
00:31:13,490 --> 00:31:11,640
mom considered herself or considered

707
00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:13,500
herself somewhat of a white witch and

708
00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:15,720
this was all of his interesting books

709
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,340
that

710
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:19,200
um a mind expanding

711
00:31:24,769 --> 00:31:22,080
and then my grandma's there was like

712
00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:24,779
books like UFOs over London and like I

713
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,700
just I can see the the cover of this

714
00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:28,799
book now and I'd probably be my son's

715
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,779
age eight or nine

716
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,600
and then you you know so your your mind

717
00:31:39,529 --> 00:31:36,240
is open to something else existing but

718
00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:39,539
then also you know I was raised Roman

719
00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:42,120
Catholic and there was this miracle man

720
00:31:48,430 --> 00:31:44,820
that walked on water fed a lot of people

721
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:48,440
you know with scampi and um

722
00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:52,320
it's uh so from from day one there's

723
00:31:57,769 --> 00:31:53,399
this

724
00:32:00,769 --> 00:31:57,779
thing that exists

725
00:32:02,750 --> 00:32:00,779
and um I'll tell you the stories so

726
00:32:03,950 --> 00:32:02,760
there's two two big stories and

727
00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:03,960
basically

728
00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:05,220
you know

729
00:32:11,510 --> 00:32:09,000
I I've never felt closer to the woo than

730
00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:11,520
I do in Los Angeles there's something

731
00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:13,980
about being in Los Angeles even though

732
00:32:20,450 --> 00:32:17,460
you know we had a house in the UK and it

733
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:20,460
was a thousand years old and uh

734
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,559
wheelchair yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

735
00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:24,960
when we went to see it at the bottom of

736
00:32:30,529 --> 00:32:28,380
the drive that day there was a uh crop

737
00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:30,539
circle there's a crop circle at the

738
00:32:34,850 --> 00:32:31,980
bottom of the drive and you have a giant

739
00:32:38,690 --> 00:32:34,860
figure like in your backyard yeah oh my

740
00:32:41,510 --> 00:32:38,700
this huge huge figure and um it's more

741
00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:41,520
of a castle than a home well no it used

742
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:43,620
to be a castle till it but what happened

743
00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:46,200
was they brought in this window tax I

744
00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:49,260
think like in the 18th century you know

745
00:32:52,970 --> 00:32:51,179
the internet will tell me if I'm right

746
00:32:57,169 --> 00:32:52,980
or wrong but they bought in this window

747
00:32:59,810 --> 00:32:57,179
tax and how many windows you have is how

748
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,820
much you're taxed so they burnt the

749
00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:01,440
castle down they burnt their own castle

750
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:04,620
down I I guess uh because you know they

751
00:33:08,090 --> 00:33:06,120
couldn't afford the tax on their own

752
00:33:11,149 --> 00:33:08,100
windows but what they did leave up was

753
00:33:15,049 --> 00:33:11,159
the barn and the Barn's huge the barn

754
00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:15,059
was like 20 000 square foot so we owned

755
00:33:21,769 --> 00:33:18,779
the barn and it was where Catherine Parr

756
00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:21,779
Henry VIII's wife used to live and and

757
00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:24,840
keep horses so even though

758
00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:28,740
I lived on land that is

759
00:33:33,169 --> 00:33:31,380
you know over a thousand years old with

760
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:33,179
it with its own forest it's over a

761
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:34,980
thousand years old and blah blah blah

762
00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:38,399
blah blah and all my guests you know

763
00:33:42,289 --> 00:33:40,440
complained or worried or noticed that

764
00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:42,299
there was a ghost there I never I never

765
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:44,340
noticed any of it

766
00:33:49,850 --> 00:33:46,620
um I've never felt more closer to the

767
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:49,860
woo than I do in Los Angeles and two

768
00:33:57,529 --> 00:33:53,039
things two major things happened while I

769
00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:57,539
was here uh I was with a young lady that

770
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:01,919
will remain nameless uh because my wife

771
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,799
and it was over 17 years ago because

772
00:34:09,230 --> 00:34:06,720
I've been I've been with my wife for 17

773
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,240
years and we're both on a sun lounger

774
00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:11,520
looking up at the stars and it's half

775
00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:15,740
past 10 and she's next to me I'm here

776
00:34:24,829 --> 00:34:19,619
relaxing and then all of a sudden

777
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:24,839
out of nowhere came this Square object

778
00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:29,040
which I can only guess was about the

779
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:32,700
size of two penalty boxes in soccer you

780
00:34:36,849 --> 00:34:34,320
know the Penalty Box at where the

781
00:34:39,649 --> 00:34:36,859
goalkeeper is I would say if you

782
00:34:40,849 --> 00:34:39,659
elongated two of those

783
00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:40,859
black

784
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:42,419
silent

785
00:34:47,149 --> 00:34:45,300
low enough to throw a golf ball or a

786
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:47,159
tennis ball and hit the underside of It

787
00:34:53,930 --> 00:34:50,639
Came floating over the trees

788
00:34:54,649 --> 00:34:53,940
underneath it had these yellow

789
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:54,659
um

790
00:35:01,070 --> 00:34:57,839
I would say like safety

791
00:35:04,990 --> 00:35:01,080
lights no not lights no no strips oh

792
00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:05,000
yellow strips like this and then it was

793
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:08,460
metallic uh it was matte black

794
00:35:14,089 --> 00:35:12,240
with these bumps in it and it came over

795
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:14,099
silently

796
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,960
and

797
00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:19,920
um

798
00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:22,980
yeah I can't I can't explain what that

799
00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:26,280
was and she turned around and went what

800
00:35:30,530 --> 00:35:28,200
the [\h__\h] was that yeah so she saw I mean

801
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:30,540
that's a [\h__\h] UFO that's an

802
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:33,119
unidentified flying object yeah but like

803
00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:35,880
what I didn't do was instantly go you

804
00:35:40,010 --> 00:35:36,540
know

805
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:40,020
uh it's from say a reticulate or

806
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:42,359
whatever I just I you know I just

807
00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:44,940
thought well there's a bit of exotic

808
00:35:48,349 --> 00:35:46,740
technology that they're not telling us

809
00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:48,359
we've got right

810
00:35:53,569 --> 00:35:51,540
but what was interesting was the fact

811
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,579
that that's incredibly interesting by

812
00:35:57,650 --> 00:35:55,440
itself the other interesting thing was

813
00:36:01,790 --> 00:35:57,660
this was at the Beverly Hills Hotel

814
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,800
at half past 10 which is a very uh you

815
00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:03,839
know it's on Sunset Strip

816
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:07,320
so if I saw it so did countless other

817
00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:10,560
people but as it happens they didn't you

818
00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:12,540
you and the person you were with both

819
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:14,520
saw it oh yeah yeah but what you'd

820
00:36:18,890 --> 00:36:16,260
imagine just everybody would would have

821
00:36:22,370 --> 00:36:18,900
seen that yeah and like and if it's

822
00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:22,380
you know if it's that low and that big

823
00:36:29,630 --> 00:36:26,280
going over the hotel it's then gotta go

824
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,640
up Benedict Canyon which has got

825
00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:32,640
a thousand houses you know and then it's

826
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:34,380
got to go over Bernadette Canyon into

827
00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:36,960
the San Fernando Valley so you know in

828
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:39,060
the San Fernando Valley has got millions

829
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,560
and millions of people so where are the

830
00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:42,960
reports not only where are the reports

831
00:36:46,849 --> 00:36:45,000
where are the other people that saw it

832
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:46,859
that night and where is the talk and

833
00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:49,680
where is the chatter and there isn't so

834
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,940
that was one story the other story was I

835
00:36:58,849 --> 00:36:55,200
wrote

836
00:37:02,510 --> 00:36:58,859
a song called Arizona about alien

837
00:37:05,450 --> 00:37:02,520
abduction right and it's on YouTube it's

838
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,460
a b side it's not a great song it's an

839
00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:07,920
all right song and

840
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:08,760
um

841
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:12,240
we wrote it at the James gilliland's

842
00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:13,440
Ranch

843
00:37:20,690 --> 00:37:16,859
and brought it home and my studio at the

844
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,700
time was in my bedroom and I had a

845
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,560
balcony at the more Holland Estates

846
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:24,720
Place that overlooked the San Fernando

847
00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:25,520
Valley

848
00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:28,740
and uh I'm playing the song on the

849
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:29,820
speakers

850
00:37:33,410 --> 00:37:31,680
and I'm listening to it and I'm trying

851
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:33,420
to whittle away at the lyrics to make

852
00:37:38,569 --> 00:37:36,900
them better I didn't manage it uh but I

853
00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:38,579
I was I was having a cigarette and I was

854
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:40,619
overlooking San Fernando Valley and I'm

855
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:43,020
thinking about how to

856
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:47,760
create Better lyrics and a ball appears

857
00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:50,940
in the sky gold ball and and like nice

858
00:37:54,770 --> 00:37:53,579
one Venus yeah you're not gonna trick me

859
00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:54,780
again you're not gonna you're not gonna

860
00:37:59,890 --> 00:37:57,060
trick me again Venus yeah yeah because

861
00:38:03,950 --> 00:37:59,900
you know that that's one thing that you

862
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:03,960
do learn from the internet and be in

863
00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:08,640
shamed and also uh be improved and wrong

864
00:38:14,569 --> 00:38:11,880
yeah you know you you you you you're

865
00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:14,579
instantly shown I know this was that and

866
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,200
this was that and that can't be that

867
00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:18,480
because that's this but this one was

868
00:38:25,150 --> 00:38:21,180
like interesting but no

869
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:25,160
and then the song finishes and the ball

870
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:28,020
disappears and I'm like

871
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:32,400
still no and uh and then I I played it

872
00:38:36,650 --> 00:38:34,320
again because I I'm working on the lyric

873
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:36,660
and as I play it again the song comes on

874
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:38,460
and the ball appears in the sky and I'm

875
00:38:42,650 --> 00:38:39,359
like

876
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:42,660
you may have my attention and um song

877
00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:45,180
finishes ball flashes out

878
00:38:49,730 --> 00:38:47,820
and I go and my friends I go

879
00:38:52,849 --> 00:38:49,740
guys come and have a look at this right

880
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,859
I think when you press play this ball is

881
00:38:56,990 --> 00:38:54,240
going to appear over there look over

882
00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:57,000
there and they press play and looked out

883
00:39:00,890 --> 00:38:58,680
the window and a ball appeared and they

884
00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:00,900
were like what the f is that came out

885
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:02,460
again and I said and now when the song

886
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:05,160
finishes it blinks out and the song

887
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:07,320
finished and it blinked out and it did

888
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,079
it again five times in a row my wife

889
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:12,960
appears I go babe look at this it

890
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,480
happens again blinks out it's six or

891
00:39:19,849 --> 00:39:17,040
seven times in a row

892
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,859
and uh after the seventh time not only

893
00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:21,599
has it now got my attention but I'm

894
00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:23,400
fully invested in this being a woo-woo

895
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:27,000
you know and um the song blinks out now

896
00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:29,400
all of my friends are super excited we

897
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:31,140
go back into the bedroom

898
00:39:36,410 --> 00:39:34,140
Calvin Danny who from Stoke on Trent

899
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,420
they're right with are there I'm here

900
00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:37,920
the wife's there

901
00:39:42,349 --> 00:39:40,980
we go wow like that and we look to the

902
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,359
right well we don't look to the right it

903
00:39:46,250 --> 00:39:45,359
just appears this black strip about this

904
00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:46,260
thick

905
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:49,500
comes from the bedroom door stretches

906
00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:51,420
out the length of the bedroom which is

907
00:39:55,069 --> 00:39:53,220
quite big

908
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:55,079
goes to the window and then follows

909
00:39:58,430 --> 00:39:56,880
itself out

910
00:40:00,530 --> 00:39:58,440
and

911
00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:00,540
um we all saw that

912
00:40:03,290 --> 00:40:02,579
yeah and

913
00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:03,300
um

914
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,880
what was that what was that what was

915
00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:07,920
that something's there

916
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,920
man something's up and there's like

917
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:12,720
loads of other

918
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:17,040
stories that um you know are

919
00:40:25,310 --> 00:40:21,599
so fanciful and you know as time has

920
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,320
passed I don't know if I've had added

921
00:40:29,630 --> 00:40:27,599
steering wheels and wheels to it

922
00:40:32,690 --> 00:40:29,640
wouldn't be trying to talk yourself out

923
00:40:35,569 --> 00:40:32,700
of it you talk you you must have been X

924
00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:35,579
yeah yeah yeah it well

925
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:38,700
yeah that's

926
00:40:44,569 --> 00:40:41,520
yeah I I I there's loads that I've

927
00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:44,579
talked to myself out of and convinced

928
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:47,940
myself that you know maybe my mental

929
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:51,540
illness is is also bigger than just

930
00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:53,839
feeling a bit sad

931
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:56,760
hope you entertained the idea that your

932
00:41:02,030 --> 00:40:59,520
creative nature attracts things that or

933
00:41:04,250 --> 00:41:02,040
you're open to it I've I've entertained

934
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,260
the idea that I'm looking for it and

935
00:41:08,650 --> 00:41:06,240
searching for it and at that particular

936
00:41:12,290 --> 00:41:08,660
part of my life before the children came

937
00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:12,300
that was yeah I was I was searching for

938
00:41:20,569 --> 00:41:16,740
it and actively saying Turn Up Show me

939
00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:20,579
um uh since the children have arrived 10

940
00:41:29,450 --> 00:41:25,500
years ago the zilch nothing because my

941
00:41:31,069 --> 00:41:29,460
focus is with them and on them but when

942
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:31,079
I was in

943
00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:35,820
America with time on my hands when I

944
00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:39,540
grew a beard and wore a kaftan and sat

945
00:41:46,490 --> 00:41:41,579
on the sofa

946
00:41:50,569 --> 00:41:46,500
um my my concentration was on the

947
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:50,579
woo-woo aspect of this something's up

948
00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:53,220
you know what you describe some like

949
00:41:57,410 --> 00:41:55,800
some classic UFO type events you've had

950
00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:57,420
other experiences in your life that

951
00:42:02,530 --> 00:41:59,880
would be something akin to Poltergeist

952
00:42:04,270 --> 00:42:02,540
uh Supernatural uh Poltergeist

953
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:04,280
Supernatural

954
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:07,320
coincidences that are so huge and so

955
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:09,420
bizarre that

956
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:11,160
um you have to say there's something up

957
00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:13,140
with them

958
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:14,040
um

959
00:42:21,470 --> 00:42:17,119
I the the thing that has been happening

960
00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:21,480
frequently which happens to everybody

961
00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:23,700
but the rate at which that it's turned

962
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:26,700
up just recently is like okay well

963
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:28,320
what's going on

964
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:31,800
is the uh you think of people they phone

965
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:33,839
you think of people they email

966
00:42:40,730 --> 00:42:35,880
you know and

967
00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:40,740
um uh obviously you could say that uh

968
00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:43,380
this a lot of it's coincidence

969
00:42:47,390 --> 00:42:45,660
um but the rate that it's been happening

970
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:47,400
just recently is like oh now you've got

971
00:42:52,130 --> 00:42:48,480
my attention

972
00:42:53,870 --> 00:42:52,140
you know because it's it's happening I I

973
00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:53,880
won't have taught somebody I've seen

974
00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:55,320
somebody for

975
00:43:00,109 --> 00:42:58,079
years and years and years and years you

976
00:43:01,849 --> 00:43:00,119
think about them and as you think about

977
00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:01,859
them you open up your computer and you

978
00:43:08,809 --> 00:43:04,380
go to your emails and there they are uh

979
00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:08,819
it I I know this sounds oblique and

980
00:43:13,309 --> 00:43:11,160
nothing to put your hook on

981
00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:13,319
um but I think that if

982
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:15,540
people saw it happening as often as

983
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:17,520
happening just recently it will get your

984
00:43:21,470 --> 00:43:19,440
attention that's all I'm saying yeah I'm

985
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,480
it may be nothing but at the moment

986
00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:23,280
that's the thing that's happening yeah

987
00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:25,140
well it's a cool experience either way

988
00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:27,060
we don't have to solve this riddle it's

989
00:43:31,069 --> 00:43:28,920
just something to pay attention to right

990
00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:31,079
it's a it's something that maybe can can

991
00:43:34,130 --> 00:43:32,700
help guide you in a way if you're

992
00:43:35,809 --> 00:43:34,140
constantly having these experiences you

993
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,819
pay attention to them maybe there's a

994
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:37,200
value in that

995
00:43:41,870 --> 00:43:39,300
I tell you I tell you the oddest thing

996
00:43:43,849 --> 00:43:41,880
yeah of this sort of nature that's ever

997
00:43:47,089 --> 00:43:43,859
happened to me

998
00:43:49,309 --> 00:43:47,099
um and this is this will be this is not

999
00:43:52,849 --> 00:43:49,319
this is bizarre this will be a bizarre

1000
00:43:55,010 --> 00:43:52,859
to you and comedic to everybody that

1001
00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:55,020
knows who this person is I'm about to

1002
00:43:58,609 --> 00:43:57,000
tell you just be bizarre to you yeah but

1003
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,619
it'd be comedic to the people that know

1004
00:44:03,470 --> 00:44:01,200
I'm referencing so

1005
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,480
back in in England there used to be this

1006
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:05,520
double act called little and large and

1007
00:44:14,109 --> 00:44:09,839
they were on the TV from I'd say 81 to

1008
00:44:18,650 --> 00:44:14,119
85 or something like that and um

1009
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:18,660
I asleep and I'm dreaming and little

1010
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:21,060
from little and large comes into my

1011
00:44:26,210 --> 00:44:22,079
dream

1012
00:44:27,530 --> 00:44:26,220
you know sometimes when you're having a

1013
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,540
dream and you realize you're dreaming

1014
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,000
happens few and far between but

1015
00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:32,400
sometimes it does happen little walks

1016
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:35,400
into my dream and I'm like

1017
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:40,380
what oh I'm Dreaming oh okay oh this is

1018
00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:41,220
a dream

1019
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:44,520
the next day out of nowhere little from

1020
00:44:49,490 --> 00:44:47,400
little and large gets hold of me through

1021
00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:49,500
a friend never met this man in his life

1022
00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:52,020
and asks me to sign an autograph for a

1023
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,780
girl that's dying of cancer

1024
00:45:03,230 --> 00:44:56,400
now

1025
00:45:05,630 --> 00:45:03,240
tenuous to the uninitiated uninitiated

1026
00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:05,640
they're out there watching this but for

1027
00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:08,220
me you know it kind of blew my mind that

1028
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:10,200
I dreamed this person and the next day

1029
00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:11,760
he wanted me to do something for

1030
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:14,460
somebody who was leaving this Mortal

1031
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:15,960
plane right you never met that person

1032
00:45:21,470 --> 00:45:18,060
before and you have a dream it's it's

1033
00:45:24,650 --> 00:45:21,480
it's those style coincidences that

1034
00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:24,660
happened to me a great deal yeah

1035
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:28,380
you have any psychic uh abilities or

1036
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:30,240
ever go through training like remote

1037
00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:31,800
viewing you've had you know you have

1038
00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:33,660
friends who are in those programs you

1039
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,880
know people who have done that stuff you

1040
00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:37,920
ever gone down that road and tried to on

1041
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:40,660
your skills I'm so lazy

1042
00:45:44,450 --> 00:45:41,760
[Laughter]

1043
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:44,460
when it when it's not

1044
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:48,180
a pain thin a malady a lyric

1045
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:51,180
a business idea a business opportunity

1046
00:45:57,290 --> 00:45:54,079
anything outside of that

1047
00:45:59,450 --> 00:45:57,300
always always always with remote viewing

1048
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,460
I'm like I'm doing that one day I'm

1049
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:01,920
doing that one day me too and I always

1050
00:46:08,569 --> 00:46:06,480
always always I'm gonna sit down and see

1051
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:08,579
if I can hone this for it to be

1052
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:11,040
something whatever that something is I

1053
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:12,119
never do

1054
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:14,160
yeah every January I decide I'm going to

1055
00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:15,839
devote this year to learning meditation

1056
00:46:20,750 --> 00:46:18,060
and and get the benefits from it I'm

1057
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:20,760
still waiting to start that process

1058
00:46:25,550 --> 00:46:23,520
um the creative process for you this is

1059
00:46:28,430 --> 00:46:25,560
the most amazing thing about Rob and

1060
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,440
Noah and Rob is how different he is in

1061
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:30,960
in person from the guy on the stage it

1062
00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:33,359
just it's night and day

1063
00:46:37,010 --> 00:46:34,920
um what was surprising to me when I

1064
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:37,020
first started learning as music is

1065
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:39,000
damn these are these are pretty good

1066
00:46:44,030 --> 00:46:41,040
songs you know this is pop music but

1067
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,040
they you portray yourself as illiterate

1068
00:46:48,410 --> 00:46:46,319
you're not well read but damn it's it's

1069
00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:48,420
really pretty good the lyrics this stuff

1070
00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:50,339
is good thank you can you describe the

1071
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:52,920
do you get in inspired out of nowhere

1072
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,500
yet you see something on the street and

1073
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:57,359
that makes you want to write a song or

1074
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,640
do you are you disciplined enough to sit

1075
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,440
down and say today I'm writing a song

1076
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:03,599
and it's going to be about X

1077
00:47:10,490 --> 00:47:07,920
well at any given time on my Mac I've

1078
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:10,500
got a vault of songs that's been

1079
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:14,160
unreleased that I would say would go

1080
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:17,220
into a hundred and something you know

1081
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:18,079
um

1082
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:22,680
and when it comes to songwriting

1083
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:25,680
you know I I can't play anything but

1084
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:29,119
like maladies I've got on it's happening

1085
00:47:35,930 --> 00:47:32,400
just you know it's been non-stop you

1086
00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:35,940
know and uh lyrically

1087
00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:36,780
um

1088
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:40,380
a lot of the time I might I'm a magpie

1089
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,180
too you know something that you might

1090
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:44,640
say I'll just put in my notes and I've

1091
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,700
got I've got um page after page after

1092
00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:49,680
page after page after page of things

1093
00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:51,000
that I've found

1094
00:47:56,450 --> 00:47:53,160
words that are put together in a certain

1095
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:56,460
way that I find interesting and then a

1096
00:48:01,069 --> 00:47:58,079
lot of the time I can just cherry pick

1097
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:01,079
what I've got in my notes but a lot of

1098
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,960
the time with songs you know I work with

1099
00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:06,000
my friends I work with the people that I

1100
00:48:11,390 --> 00:48:08,040
love and they'll send me a backing track

1101
00:48:13,309 --> 00:48:11,400
I'll sing over the top of it and

1102
00:48:14,329 --> 00:48:13,319
um I'll sing these Melodies which will

1103
00:48:14,930 --> 00:48:14,339
be

1104
00:48:17,630 --> 00:48:14,940
um

1105
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,640
you know the maladies will be

1106
00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:19,920
pretty strong but the words will be

1107
00:48:24,589 --> 00:48:22,380
gibberish and then you listen back to

1108
00:48:26,809 --> 00:48:24,599
the gibberish that you've sang and then

1109
00:48:27,710 --> 00:48:26,819
you try to fit the

1110
00:48:31,309 --> 00:48:27,720
um

1111
00:48:34,550 --> 00:48:31,319
the syllable to the gibberish and

1112
00:48:36,410 --> 00:48:34,560
sometimes the gibberish uh comes out and

1113
00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:36,420
it sounds like something that might be

1114
00:48:41,329 --> 00:48:38,760
interesting so the gibberish a lot of

1115
00:48:43,210 --> 00:48:41,339
the time informs what I write and

1116
00:48:45,470 --> 00:48:43,220
sometimes they just stay gibberish

1117
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,480
syllable to gibberish sounds like the

1118
00:48:49,309 --> 00:48:47,040
title of the next album yeah maybe

1119
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,319
number 16. yeah maybe I mean some of

1120
00:48:53,930 --> 00:48:52,079
those lyrics When I I listen to your

1121
00:48:56,690 --> 00:48:53,940
songs and they're great melodic they're

1122
00:48:59,450 --> 00:48:56,700
fun and then you dig into the lyrics and

1123
00:49:01,849 --> 00:48:59,460
God damn they're funny uh party like a

1124
00:49:04,190 --> 00:49:01,859
Russian thank you

1125
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,200
that one got you in trouble though when

1126
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:06,720
it semi got me in trouble uh party like

1127
00:49:12,530 --> 00:49:09,599
a Russian and also there's there's a lot

1128
00:49:14,569 --> 00:49:12,540
of things that I I think and I say in

1129
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:14,579
lyrics that by the time it's ready to

1130
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:17,040
come out I change so I don't get too

1131
00:49:22,250 --> 00:49:19,260
much in trouble

1132
00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:22,260
um so the lyric to party like a Russian

1133
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:23,640
was a lot better before I thought

1134
00:49:29,870 --> 00:49:26,640
Vladimir Putin might kill me seriously

1135
00:49:33,470 --> 00:49:29,880
though well you know I I don't think I'm

1136
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,480
on vlad's radar but you know there is um

1137
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:35,520
there's a few rhyming couplets in the

1138
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:39,119
chorus that were a lot better before I

1139
00:49:42,530 --> 00:49:39,839
was

1140
00:49:45,890 --> 00:49:42,540
um advised not by the powers that be

1141
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:45,900
just by you know worried father figures

1142
00:49:51,410 --> 00:49:48,660
that I I may have to change things but

1143
00:49:53,470 --> 00:49:51,420
that's that's happened a lot a lot in my

1144
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:53,480
career where I you know

1145
00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:56,000
especially

1146
00:50:01,010 --> 00:49:58,380
2005-2006 where your

1147
00:50:03,770 --> 00:50:01,020
picking up these books from the Bodhi

1148
00:50:05,870 --> 00:50:03,780
Tree here in Los Angeles and you know it

1149
00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:05,880
is the wild west and you're you're

1150
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:08,099
everywhere from you know

1151
00:50:15,950 --> 00:50:11,760
um super soldiers to

1152
00:50:19,309 --> 00:50:15,960
um secret labs to uh you know

1153
00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:19,319
um the the industrial military complex

1154
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,640
to uh you know to the powers that be and

1155
00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:25,680
you know that there is there was words

1156
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,260
that I put into songs that I thought I'm

1157
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,960
just gonna get into too much trouble not

1158
00:50:34,550 --> 00:50:32,640
that I think any secret powers are going

1159
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,560
to come down heavily on me it's just

1160
00:50:38,329 --> 00:50:36,000
like I might have to sit in an interview

1161
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,339
and explain this

1162
00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:40,319
um so so you haven't uncovered the

1163
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:44,040
Illuminati being a pop star right have

1164
00:50:50,089 --> 00:50:47,040
you tried well that yeah

1165
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:50,099
I genuinely have it's like you know I've

1166
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:53,359
I've turned up to places with people

1167
00:50:58,490 --> 00:50:56,220
that I normally wouldn't associate with

1168
00:51:01,790 --> 00:50:58,500
just to see what's going on and if

1169
00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:01,800
anything is going on because I'm I'm you

1170
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:04,680
you know I'm the people watching this

1171
00:51:10,910 --> 00:51:09,119
now and um I have a fortunate position

1172
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:10,920
where I could be on the inside to see if

1173
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:12,720
anything's going on so you've sat down

1174
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:13,800
and had like dinner with the queen

1175
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:17,040
before so like whoever you think okay

1176
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:20,640
whoever you think I've been you know if

1177
00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:23,520
there was a bunch of people that would

1178
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,780
come to a famous person to say hey do

1179
00:51:31,609 --> 00:51:29,760
you want to be part of our club at some

1180
00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:31,619
point in my life it would have happened

1181
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:34,020
to me and

1182
00:51:36,290 --> 00:51:34,680
um

1183
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:36,300
you know it

1184
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,599
when when this was Niche and was on the

1185
00:51:44,569 --> 00:51:42,480
fringes of the internet it was a very

1186
00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:44,579
exciting place to be because there was

1187
00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:46,260
no

1188
00:51:53,390 --> 00:51:50,700
active part happening in real life other

1189
00:51:55,210 --> 00:51:53,400
than in the fantasy of your own mind

1190
00:51:59,089 --> 00:51:55,220
now what has happened

1191
00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:59,099
conspiracy has gone mainstream and it's

1192
00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:01,920
reached and is reaching a very dangerous

1193
00:52:06,650 --> 00:52:04,680
place where it's gone from you thinking

1194
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:06,660
about it in your bedroom to people

1195
00:52:12,650 --> 00:52:12,000
taking action in real life and um as a

1196
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:12,660
um

1197
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:15,359
conspiracy

1198
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:18,240
listener yeah I wouldn't say theorist I

1199
00:52:23,470 --> 00:52:20,160
would just say as a conspiracy listener

1200
00:52:25,730 --> 00:52:23,480
that gives my own Forum to those words

1201
00:52:29,809 --> 00:52:25,740
you know I I've just sat on the

1202
00:52:32,809 --> 00:52:29,819
sidelines going guys no

1203
00:52:36,770 --> 00:52:32,819
you you you're you're poisoning yourself

1204
00:52:41,150 --> 00:52:36,780
with a cult-like absolute steadfast

1205
00:52:43,849 --> 00:52:41,160
belief in something that actually exists

1206
00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:43,859
in a gray area than you were allowing it

1207
00:52:49,609 --> 00:52:47,460
to be and I I find that scary as

1208
00:52:52,569 --> 00:52:49,619
somebody that can divorce himself from

1209
00:52:56,930 --> 00:52:52,579
the lofted position that I find myself

1210
00:52:58,609 --> 00:52:56,940
economically and with who I have who I

1211
00:53:01,549 --> 00:52:58,619
have reached with and who I can have

1212
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,559
time with you know it's like I'm still a

1213
00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:03,359
boy from Stoke on Trent that sees

1214
00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:05,940
himself that way but I I am in this

1215
00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:10,920
circle and so far

1216
00:53:15,049 --> 00:53:13,079
um everywhere I go in the highest

1217
00:53:16,490 --> 00:53:15,059
echelons of the highest people

1218
00:53:18,770 --> 00:53:16,500
yeah I'll tell you what's absolutely

1219
00:53:21,530 --> 00:53:18,780
scary is when I sit down and think it

1220
00:53:24,530 --> 00:53:21,540
might just be chaos I'd rather have it

1221
00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:24,540
be the Illuminati than it be just chaos

1222
00:53:29,930 --> 00:53:28,680
because chaos petrifies me if you have a

1223
00:53:32,569 --> 00:53:29,940
hidden hand

1224
00:53:35,089 --> 00:53:32,579
that's running everything then you can

1225
00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:35,099
put it in a box but when it's chaos it's

1226
00:53:40,670 --> 00:53:37,260
something else completely

1227
00:53:43,309 --> 00:53:40,680
um I do think the truth lies in a gray

1228
00:53:46,910 --> 00:53:43,319
margin you know the more

1229
00:53:50,930 --> 00:53:46,920
the more and more I think about it if

1230
00:53:54,049 --> 00:53:50,940
the gene exists if Spirits exists if

1231
00:53:56,089 --> 00:53:54,059
good exists if bad exists

1232
00:54:00,589 --> 00:53:56,099
if angels exist

1233
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:00,599
if there is a hidden hand

1234
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:03,599
um then I believe it exists on a more

1235
00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:08,160
ethereal plane than a group of very rich

1236
00:54:14,030 --> 00:54:11,400
people running things that being said

1237
00:54:17,450 --> 00:54:14,040
you know I do

1238
00:54:19,309 --> 00:54:17,460
see the um the community of people that

1239
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:19,319
get together every once in a while and

1240
00:54:23,809 --> 00:54:22,020
decide how we should live you know you

1241
00:54:25,970 --> 00:54:23,819
cannot not see that

1242
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:25,980
but um

1243
00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:30,800
I I wonder how much Credence we as

1244
00:54:36,349 --> 00:54:33,540
people that have interest in the woo-woo

1245
00:54:37,490 --> 00:54:36,359
give to Too Much woo-woo that we've

1246
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:37,500
invested in

1247
00:54:42,170 --> 00:54:41,040
where is the who whose testimony are we

1248
00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:42,180
taking

1249
00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:45,000
you know from from as much as I can see

1250
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:48,300
where this whole thing is concerned the

1251
00:54:55,010 --> 00:54:51,599
people that we are taking the lead from

1252
00:54:59,210 --> 00:54:55,020
um you wouldn't buy a used car from

1253
00:55:03,230 --> 00:54:59,220
you know and you know there is a lot of

1254
00:55:05,930 --> 00:55:03,240
mental illness out there and

1255
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:05,940
um you can say anything you can write

1256
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:06,960
anything

1257
00:55:13,609 --> 00:55:11,040
and um the written word it would seem is

1258
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:13,619
very powerful but the written word from

1259
00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:17,220
Who and the testimony from who and when

1260
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:19,980
and how who are these people and why

1261
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:22,079
have you why have millions of people all

1262
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:24,960
of a sudden put their

1263
00:55:29,930 --> 00:55:27,119
belief

1264
00:55:33,770 --> 00:55:29,940
a hundred percent into and now are

1265
00:55:34,849 --> 00:55:33,780
acting out in in real life and that that

1266
00:55:38,089 --> 00:55:34,859
um

1267
00:55:39,410 --> 00:55:38,099
that terrifies me and there are a lot of

1268
00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:39,420
things that people think have been

1269
00:55:43,790 --> 00:55:41,880
debunked which haven't been debunked and

1270
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,800
uh I'm not saying that those things that

1271
00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:45,839
haven't been debunked have anything to

1272
00:55:50,510 --> 00:55:48,540
do with reality there are things that

1273
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:50,520
haven't been explained that should be

1274
00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:53,040
explained there are a lot of things that

1275
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:54,660
haven't been explained that can't be

1276
00:56:00,770 --> 00:55:58,079
explained because the people that have

1277
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:00,780
that are attached to these

1278
00:56:05,690 --> 00:56:03,300
um stories can't have anything to do

1279
00:56:07,370 --> 00:56:05,700
with what these stories are they can't

1280
00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:07,380
attack they can't even have that that

1281
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:10,200
thing and that name associated with them

1282
00:56:16,030 --> 00:56:13,079
so that just builds and builds and

1283
00:56:18,290 --> 00:56:16,040
builds mistrust and it builds mythology

1284
00:56:19,569 --> 00:56:18,300
it also

1285
00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:19,579
um

1286
00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:24,200
uh also we're in a post-truth world

1287
00:56:31,069 --> 00:56:28,020
where you can't believe the media you

1288
00:56:33,650 --> 00:56:31,079
can't believe big Pharma you can't

1289
00:56:36,349 --> 00:56:33,660
believe politicians you can't believe

1290
00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:36,359
what you're eating you can't believe

1291
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,040
yourself

1292
00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:40,319
it's you know

1293
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:45,000
if at any time in human it since we've

1294
00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:48,960
existed there is a time where this whole

1295
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:50,280
Empire

1296
00:56:55,549 --> 00:56:52,920
could fall it's now

1297
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:55,559
and um

1298
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,040
yeah it's it's of course these things

1299
00:57:03,470 --> 00:57:01,440
are going to arise because we can't

1300
00:57:07,870 --> 00:57:03,480
trust anybody or anything

1301
00:57:10,849 --> 00:57:07,880
and um I personally

1302
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:10,859
disbelieve and invest in my wife and my

1303
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:12,420
kids and my family

1304
00:57:17,089 --> 00:57:13,680
and

1305
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:17,099
um yeah I I believe in them

1306
00:57:22,849 --> 00:57:21,119
March 2018 we have this crazy idea maybe

1307
00:57:24,410 --> 00:57:22,859
we should go to Skinwalker Ranch and

1308
00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:24,420
maybe our friend Rob would go with us

1309
00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:26,520
yeah we reach out to the owner of the

1310
00:57:31,490 --> 00:57:29,400
Ranch Brandon fugel he says yeah come on

1311
00:57:34,790 --> 00:57:31,500
down we ask Rob you want to go because

1312
00:57:37,849 --> 00:57:34,800
it's a nine hour drive from Las Vegas to

1313
00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:37,859
the the you went to Basin so yeah I'd

1314
00:57:41,569 --> 00:57:40,200
like to go I'll pick you guys up what do

1315
00:57:43,870 --> 00:57:41,579
you want to know

1316
00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:43,880
whether

1317
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,220
I am

1318
00:57:52,609 --> 00:57:49,520
crazy

1319
00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:52,619
or right

1320
00:57:56,510 --> 00:57:55,260
that way

1321
00:57:57,410 --> 00:57:56,520
um well there's lots of things that I

1322
00:58:00,530 --> 00:57:57,420
want to know

1323
00:58:02,210 --> 00:58:00,540
but specifically because you're here the

1324
00:58:05,089 --> 00:58:02,220
vein that we're talking about I suppose

1325
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:05,099
if we would put a name to it would be

1326
00:58:08,510 --> 00:58:05,760
um

1327
00:58:10,609 --> 00:58:08,520
unusual phenomena I don't want to

1328
00:58:13,630 --> 00:58:10,619
say paranormal because I think it's got

1329
00:58:17,089 --> 00:58:13,640
stigma so as UFOs stigma

1330
00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:17,099
unusual phenomena that I've been

1331
00:58:22,609 --> 00:58:19,380
attracted to ever since I was born and

1332
00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:22,619
obsessed about and in in the presence of

1333
00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:25,260
a few times short version when I was a

1334
00:58:31,250 --> 00:58:28,319
kid uh I can't remember this but I used

1335
00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:31,260
to talk to dead people

1336
00:58:37,130 --> 00:58:33,359
um I freaked my father out when I was

1337
00:58:40,849 --> 00:58:37,140
three and four and five and uh they were

1338
00:58:43,010 --> 00:58:40,859
people that had passed on lucid dreams

1339
00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:43,020
um flying in my dreams when I was like

1340
00:58:48,049 --> 00:58:45,900
three and four where I went out of my

1341
00:58:50,329 --> 00:58:48,059
bedroom and went around town got kicked

1342
00:58:52,430 --> 00:58:50,339
in the nuts by people that are not into

1343
00:58:55,549 --> 00:58:52,440
this sort of stuff and by people that

1344
00:58:57,530 --> 00:58:55,559
are into this kind of stuff I suppose

1345
00:59:00,349 --> 00:58:57,540
that it's like

1346
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,359
having your favorite band when you're

1347
00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:02,880
younger and you know them before they

1348
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:05,220
become commercial and successful and

1349
00:59:09,049 --> 00:59:07,200
then when it becomes they become

1350
00:59:11,630 --> 00:59:09,059
commercial and successful you hate them

1351
00:59:14,569 --> 00:59:11,640
because they used to be your thing I

1352
00:59:18,109 --> 00:59:14,579
found some good people you know

1353
00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:18,119
um George is a great person and I was

1354
00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:21,180
glad that I bumped into him and have him

1355
00:59:25,930 --> 00:59:24,420
in my life but also you know you you

1356
00:59:29,089 --> 00:59:25,940
encounter

1357
00:59:32,450 --> 00:59:29,099
charlatans that are tricking themselves

1358
00:59:34,849 --> 00:59:32,460
I've come to believe a lot of them and I

1359
00:59:37,549 --> 00:59:34,859
reached a dead end pretty quickly you've

1360
00:59:40,370 --> 00:59:37,559
been invited to Skinwalker Ranch where

1361
00:59:41,450 --> 00:59:40,380
all of the phenomena that you have just

1362
00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:41,460
expressed

1363
00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:44,520
have occurred in front of scientists and

1364
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:47,160
Witnesses for Generations we're going to

1365
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,480
a hot spot

1366
00:59:54,109 --> 00:59:51,119
what is your feeling my grandma used to

1367
00:59:55,789 --> 00:59:54,119
tell me stories of the Sandman that used

1368
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,799
to come and take children that weren't

1369
01:00:00,109 --> 00:59:57,359
sleeping

1370
01:00:01,609 --> 01:00:00,119
I was three or four when she used to

1371
01:00:03,049 --> 01:00:01,619
tell me these stories and they used to

1372
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:03,059
terrify me

1373
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:05,520
and then when I was six seven eight nine

1374
01:00:14,270 --> 01:00:11,040
ten all the way up until my early 30s

1375
01:00:16,970 --> 01:00:14,280
I was either aware of something being

1376
01:00:18,349 --> 01:00:16,980
there or damaged by these stories about

1377
01:00:21,650 --> 01:00:18,359
the salmon

1378
01:00:23,390 --> 01:00:21,660
and um

1379
01:00:25,730 --> 01:00:23,400
you know facing your fear if you're

1380
01:00:28,910 --> 01:00:25,740
scared of flying you go flying are you

1381
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:28,920
prepared if you do experience something

1382
01:00:38,329 --> 01:00:36,349
yeah but I'm taking security with me you

1383
01:00:41,810 --> 01:00:38,339
know jiu jitsu

1384
01:00:43,849 --> 01:00:41,820
and I'm quite handy with a smash bubble

1385
01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:43,859
[Music]

1386
01:00:47,930 --> 01:00:46,200
pick up the stores in there yeah that's

1387
01:00:49,789 --> 01:00:47,940
okay

1388
01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:49,799
um we got on a Jet Plane and that was

1389
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:52,559
really cool and we all went so what I

1390
01:00:57,470 --> 01:00:55,200
what was cool about that was that it was

1391
01:00:58,849 --> 01:00:57,480
kind of very mysterious like we we had

1392
01:01:00,289 --> 01:00:58,859
met before and talked about what is it

1393
01:01:01,730 --> 01:01:00,299
going to be like to go to Skinwalker

1394
01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:01,740
Ranch we're both like well we don't want

1395
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:03,720
to be fooled by you know hey Venus don't

1396
01:01:06,890 --> 01:01:05,520
fool me again like let's just go

1397
01:01:09,410 --> 01:01:06,900
experience it but it was just kind of

1398
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:09,420
cool we were both feeling like what is

1399
01:01:13,490 --> 01:01:11,040
it going to be like to be there together

1400
01:01:14,930 --> 01:01:13,500
is there going to be some experience we

1401
01:01:17,450 --> 01:01:14,940
were kind of using Robbie as bait

1402
01:01:19,609 --> 01:01:17,460
because he seems tapped in in some way

1403
01:01:21,530 --> 01:01:19,619
to these odd experiences we figured

1404
01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:21,540
throw him in as bait see if something

1405
01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:23,940
occurs I was honestly I was just cool to

1406
01:01:28,010 --> 01:01:26,520
go there as friends and and have that

1407
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:28,020
time together

1408
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:29,640
um you know we did feel a little spooked

1409
01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:30,900
out at times as we're walking through

1410
01:01:35,809 --> 01:01:32,520
the dark just like in the middle of

1411
01:01:37,549 --> 01:01:35,819
nowhere uh what was it like for you just

1412
01:01:39,170 --> 01:01:37,559
you know going to this place where

1413
01:01:43,309 --> 01:01:39,180
Anything could happen that was the idea

1414
01:01:48,430 --> 01:01:43,319
okay well well yeah oh [\h__\h] yeah yeah

1415
01:01:55,069 --> 01:01:52,130
first of all you know is like

1416
01:01:57,289 --> 01:01:55,079
with UFOs with you and with you and

1417
01:01:59,030 --> 01:01:57,299
we've become friends yeah you know it's

1418
01:02:01,309 --> 01:01:59,040
equivalent of

1419
01:02:03,530 --> 01:02:01,319
falling in love with the soccer team and

1420
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:03,540
then being being able to be friends with

1421
01:02:08,109 --> 01:02:05,760
the players I say soccer football people

1422
01:02:10,490 --> 01:02:08,119
in England I get really angry with me

1423
01:02:12,770 --> 01:02:10,500
and then being friends with the players

1424
01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:12,780
all of a sudden and like I'm friends

1425
01:02:16,970 --> 01:02:14,520
with my favorite football team your

1426
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:16,980
mummy you're my mate I have respect for

1427
01:02:21,049 --> 01:02:18,960
you I've a huge respect for you I have

1428
01:02:25,250 --> 01:02:21,059
huge respect for you and then all of a

1429
01:02:27,170 --> 01:02:25,260
sudden you know we get to actually go to

1430
01:02:29,089 --> 01:02:27,180
the equivalent of stepping on the field

1431
01:02:32,510 --> 01:02:29,099
at Old Trafford or stepping on the field

1432
01:02:35,150 --> 01:02:32,520
at anfield or the burnabout or wherever

1433
01:02:37,970 --> 01:02:35,160
by going to Skinwalker Ranch and as you

1434
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:37,980
know it's like the child in me is

1435
01:02:43,789 --> 01:02:41,040
thrilled and honored at the opportunity

1436
01:02:47,450 --> 01:02:43,799
to get to do that with with the players

1437
01:02:57,710 --> 01:02:47,460
you know we were parked man yeah we were

1438
01:03:02,210 --> 01:02:59,809
does this bring back memories to your

1439
01:03:04,190 --> 01:03:02,220
first trip to the ranch

1440
01:03:05,930 --> 01:03:04,200
well yeah I mean the only other time we

1441
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:05,940
did this was the first trip that I ever

1442
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,680
made here and we built the fire and we

1443
01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:09,599
made a bunch of noise did kind of the

1444
01:03:13,490 --> 01:03:11,339
kind of things that this group has been

1445
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:13,500
doing today and yesterday and tried to

1446
01:03:19,789 --> 01:03:16,079
uh attract the attention of something

1447
01:03:22,190 --> 01:03:19,799
it didn't work and you know

1448
01:03:23,809 --> 01:03:22,200
whatever that's here it plays by its own

1449
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:23,819
rules it shows you

1450
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,400
what it wants to when it wants to for

1451
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:28,319
nids when they came in they came in like

1452
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:30,000
gangbusters and there was a debate

1453
01:03:33,410 --> 01:03:31,440
should they

1454
01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:33,420
try a technical approach scientific

1455
01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:35,160
approach or should they maybe back off

1456
01:03:41,569 --> 01:03:39,180
contact Shaman psychics remote viewers

1457
01:03:43,730 --> 01:03:41,579
they end up bringing a lot of technical

1458
01:03:45,950 --> 01:03:43,740
expertise and Equipment scientific

1459
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:45,960
measuring equipment to try to figure out

1460
01:03:49,849 --> 01:03:47,400
what's out here

1461
01:03:52,010 --> 01:03:49,859
and basically science got its ass kicked

1462
01:03:54,170 --> 01:03:52,020
because it was unable to come up with

1463
01:03:55,370 --> 01:03:54,180
any answers whatsoever collected a lot

1464
01:03:57,230 --> 01:03:55,380
of information

1465
01:04:00,349 --> 01:03:57,240
but the phenomena itself always seemed

1466
01:04:03,950 --> 01:04:00,359
to be one step ahead of of the team that

1467
01:04:08,210 --> 01:04:05,870
yeah you know I don't know whatever is

1468
01:04:09,289 --> 01:04:08,220
here it toys with whomever is trying to

1469
01:04:11,450 --> 01:04:09,299
figure it out

1470
01:04:12,650 --> 01:04:11,460
I mean it plays games it messes with

1471
01:04:14,089 --> 01:04:12,660
your mind

1472
01:04:16,010 --> 01:04:14,099
it seems to know what you're going to do

1473
01:04:18,109 --> 01:04:16,020
before you do it and it gives you

1474
01:04:20,329 --> 01:04:18,119
glimpses only when you don't expect it

1475
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:20,339
and you're not ready for it and um

1476
01:04:23,569 --> 01:04:21,839
so I don't know if anybody's ever going

1477
01:04:25,609 --> 01:04:23,579
to be able to figure it out

1478
01:04:27,410 --> 01:04:25,619
but it's a it's it maybe that's the

1479
01:04:29,210 --> 01:04:27,420
point of it it's a learning curve you

1480
01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:29,220
know it's it's meant to be the challenge

1481
01:04:33,470 --> 01:04:30,839
the Journey of getting there as opposed

1482
01:04:35,329 --> 01:04:33,480
to figuring out the final answer

1483
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:35,339
and and you know there there's a

1484
01:04:38,690 --> 01:04:36,960
suggestion from what's here is all these

1485
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,700
different phenomena that you wouldn't

1486
01:04:43,309 --> 01:04:40,799
normally associate with each other UFOs

1487
01:04:45,289 --> 01:04:43,319
and Poltergeist Poltergeist and Bigfoot

1488
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:45,299
Bigfoot and Cattlemen relations all

1489
01:04:48,770 --> 01:04:47,280
those things in one place it's almost

1490
01:04:50,690 --> 01:04:48,780
like it's telling us they're all related

1491
01:04:52,849 --> 01:04:50,700
on some level and it's up to you to

1492
01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:52,859
figure it out

1493
01:04:56,930 --> 01:04:54,900
I mean so I've been out here you know a

1494
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:56,940
number of times with you and I've really

1495
01:05:01,609 --> 01:04:59,520
had nothing but I wanted to have an

1496
01:05:02,930 --> 01:05:01,619
experience that was was not good to be

1497
01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:02,940
honest with you I did because I wanted

1498
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:04,440
to see for myself but I've only had

1499
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:06,240
really good experience I tried to trick

1500
01:05:11,089 --> 01:05:08,520
myself into feeling like ooh something's

1501
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:11,099
terrifying but I've just felt good

1502
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:13,440
you brought a bunch more people out this

1503
01:05:16,430 --> 01:05:14,880
time I mean it's your guys first time

1504
01:05:17,990 --> 01:05:16,440
and every time is different I'll admit

1505
01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:18,000
that for sure every time it's different

1506
01:05:22,130 --> 01:05:20,400
and I know you mark you wanted to come

1507
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:22,140
for 20 years to this place because of

1508
01:05:26,329 --> 01:05:24,480
the stories about it and Robbie it's

1509
01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:26,339
your first time and we talked before and

1510
01:05:30,530 --> 01:05:28,799
it was like we didn't know like maybe a

1511
01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:30,540
little scary but you didn't expect to

1512
01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:33,180
see anything but it'd be cool if you did

1513
01:05:38,750 --> 01:05:36,480
my question would be to you is have you

1514
01:05:40,510 --> 01:05:38,760
ever been to Hell I'm assuming what you

1515
01:05:43,250 --> 01:05:40,520
mean by that is like

1516
01:05:46,609 --> 01:05:43,260
personal hell what's my darkest moment

1517
01:05:49,250 --> 01:05:46,619
have I felt that depth of Despair and

1518
01:05:50,990 --> 01:05:49,260
I'd say I think everybody has had those

1519
01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:51,000
moments if they've lived a life but I

1520
01:05:54,410 --> 01:05:52,500
don't know the level of that despair

1521
01:05:58,010 --> 01:05:54,420
compared to yours or someone else's but

1522
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:58,020
I have recovered from that and so for me

1523
01:06:02,510 --> 01:06:00,240
it's like in the sense

1524
01:06:04,849 --> 01:06:02,520
of saying yes but I don't know how it

1525
01:06:06,650 --> 01:06:04,859
equates to yours because I for me

1526
01:06:09,230 --> 01:06:06,660
personally you know I've had um

1527
01:06:12,170 --> 01:06:09,240
difficulties with substance abuse etc

1528
01:06:15,289 --> 01:06:12,180
etc and found myself in places that I

1529
01:06:18,910 --> 01:06:15,299
would deem to be hell on Earth for

1530
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:18,920
quite a length of time and um

1531
01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:20,700
my

1532
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:22,440
um reservation

1533
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:25,440
would be if it was just scary I could

1534
01:06:29,089 --> 01:06:27,599
deal with that but if I have a

1535
01:06:31,010 --> 01:06:29,099
hitchhiker

1536
01:06:32,690 --> 01:06:31,020
that comes on and

1537
01:06:34,609 --> 01:06:32,700
takes me over

1538
01:06:37,730 --> 01:06:34,619
I I couldn't deal with that so I'm

1539
01:06:39,470 --> 01:06:37,740
scared of that but we do have a say in

1540
01:06:40,910 --> 01:06:39,480
in England and it's in for a penny and

1541
01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:40,920
for a pound I'm

1542
01:06:46,250 --> 01:06:42,900
I'm here so I might as well and I

1543
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:46,260
survived the last one but only just

1544
01:06:50,809 --> 01:06:48,960
openly just we all talk about evidence

1545
01:06:52,430 --> 01:06:50,819
like you know I'm making a film about

1546
01:06:54,410 --> 01:06:52,440
this and everybody was what's the

1547
01:06:56,029 --> 01:06:54,420
evidence I want to see the evidence well

1548
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:56,039
what is evidence too is evidence of

1549
01:07:00,529 --> 01:06:58,319
photograph is it a video you know what

1550
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:00,539
is evidence to you well to me a lot of

1551
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:03,119
what I have is witness testimony witness

1552
01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:05,760
testimony is evidence we use it in court

1553
01:07:09,890 --> 01:07:07,740
it is something that I find most

1554
01:07:12,049 --> 01:07:09,900
compelling depending upon the witness so

1555
01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:12,059
my question is from what you guys have

1556
01:07:16,730 --> 01:07:13,920
seen from witness testimony on this trip

1557
01:07:18,770 --> 01:07:16,740
especially you Robbie today do you find

1558
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,780
that as evidence do you find that

1559
01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:20,880
compelling what people have told you on

1560
01:07:25,630 --> 01:07:23,400
this trip I find it compelling but I

1561
01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:25,640
found it I find it also

1562
01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:28,619
I find it the way that when I relate my

1563
01:07:32,750 --> 01:07:30,900
stories about what's happened to me you

1564
01:07:36,770 --> 01:07:32,760
know as uh

1565
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:36,780
nobody takes what I say home as evidence

1566
01:07:41,809 --> 01:07:38,400
that something happened

1567
01:07:45,950 --> 01:07:41,819
I wouldn't be here if I didn't

1568
01:07:48,109 --> 01:07:45,960
believe that there was some source of

1569
01:07:50,990 --> 01:07:48,119
extra activity out of the Realms of what

1570
01:07:54,130 --> 01:07:51,000
we understand do I take it home you know

1571
01:08:01,309 --> 01:07:58,609
ish but not yes yeah ish and I guess um

1572
01:08:03,170 --> 01:08:01,319
does there become a point where

1573
01:08:05,270 --> 01:08:03,180
for example just the ranch the stories

1574
01:08:08,029 --> 01:08:05,280
at the ranch a lot of witness testimony

1575
01:08:09,829 --> 01:08:08,039
is is on this does that stack of paper

1576
01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:09,839
does that testimony be at some point

1577
01:08:14,450 --> 01:08:13,020
become so weighty that it just has value

1578
01:08:16,189 --> 01:08:14,460
you know and that's that's something I'm

1579
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:16,199
struggling with you know being an

1580
01:08:19,370 --> 01:08:17,759
outsider after you've been married about

1581
01:08:20,689 --> 01:08:19,380
20 years that's that that's the thing

1582
01:08:22,430 --> 01:08:20,699
you know like the boom of the internet

1583
01:08:24,590 --> 01:08:22,440
and all the information that you collect

1584
01:08:26,809 --> 01:08:24,600
just by being obsessed with this kind of

1585
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:26,819
thing is you can collect too much

1586
01:08:33,370 --> 01:08:29,520
information and then you have to uh

1587
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:33,380
disseminate disseminate filter you know

1588
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:36,560
distill the truth and this is part of me

1589
01:08:41,269 --> 01:08:39,120
distilling the truth from what I've read

1590
01:08:43,309 --> 01:08:41,279
on the internet so sometimes you can

1591
01:08:44,890 --> 01:08:43,319
have too much information like ATS is

1592
01:08:48,829 --> 01:08:44,900
what you're talking about yeah

1593
01:08:52,610 --> 01:08:48,839
Mark I'm learning to undo everything

1594
01:08:55,070 --> 01:08:52,620
that your website has done to my brain

1595
01:08:55,729 --> 01:08:55,080
and I love you too brother

1596
01:08:58,130 --> 01:08:55,739
um

1597
01:09:00,829 --> 01:08:58,140
yeah I mean for me this place has been

1598
01:09:04,370 --> 01:09:00,839
some it's been a place I've been trying

1599
01:09:07,309 --> 01:09:04,380
to get to for 25 years ever since George

1600
01:09:09,709 --> 01:09:07,319
first brought it to the world

1601
01:09:11,930 --> 01:09:09,719
you know when you did I've been

1602
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:11,940
intrigued as the owner of Above Top

1603
01:09:17,809 --> 01:09:13,679
secret.com

1604
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:17,819
how could I not be and I'm here and I

1605
01:09:23,209 --> 01:09:21,000
was on I was so excited to be here and I

1606
01:09:25,789 --> 01:09:23,219
have to tell you that uh

1607
01:09:28,430 --> 01:09:25,799
I'm not disappointed

1608
01:09:31,490 --> 01:09:28,440
I felt really kind of like everybody

1609
01:09:34,729 --> 01:09:31,500
else I felt very calm and peaceful here

1610
01:09:38,090 --> 01:09:34,739
definitely hoping and and sort of

1611
01:09:40,729 --> 01:09:38,100
wishing for something to happen but I'm

1612
01:09:42,829 --> 01:09:40,739
okay that nothing has

1613
01:09:45,289 --> 01:09:42,839
the question

1614
01:09:48,169 --> 01:09:45,299
what is evidence the witness testimony

1615
01:09:50,150 --> 01:09:48,179
is what got me into this I mean Admirals

1616
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,160
generals Pilots I mean that's what

1617
01:09:54,289 --> 01:09:52,560
initially got me into this stuff so yes

1618
01:09:57,229 --> 01:09:54,299
that has weight

1619
01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:57,239
but what I'd love to see you know a

1620
01:10:04,970 --> 01:10:00,840
portal open up right there

1621
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:04,980
yeah I really would as long as it stays

1622
01:10:09,410 --> 01:10:07,679
right there yeah I guess I'm it's just a

1623
01:10:10,970 --> 01:10:09,420
personal struggle I have it's just I've

1624
01:10:13,550 --> 01:10:10,980
got the point where I just I don't have

1625
01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:13,560
the luxury of disbelief anymore I don't

1626
01:10:17,930 --> 01:10:15,840
know what that means it doesn't mean I

1627
01:10:20,689 --> 01:10:17,940
know anything I just don't have the

1628
01:10:22,610 --> 01:10:20,699
luxury of disbelief and I don't know how

1629
01:10:23,930 --> 01:10:22,620
better to say it it's a great way to put

1630
01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:23,940
it oh I wish there was a better way

1631
01:10:26,689 --> 01:10:25,500
because it doesn't complete it but great

1632
01:10:29,090 --> 01:10:26,699
way to put it

1633
01:10:31,689 --> 01:10:29,100
but the life stories that we're we are

1634
01:10:33,770 --> 01:10:31,699
fed on a daily day basis are so concrete

1635
01:10:34,669 --> 01:10:33,780
and as so

1636
01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:34,679
um

1637
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,260
or a hundred percent when something

1638
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:39,600
happens outside of those beliefs and the

1639
01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:41,280
stories you've been fed of course you're

1640
01:10:44,270 --> 01:10:42,719
going to question yourself and of course

1641
01:10:47,090 --> 01:10:44,280
you're going to question your own sanity

1642
01:10:49,490 --> 01:10:47,100
and even though I said I believe I think

1643
01:10:51,950 --> 01:10:49,500
that it's also healthy to go hey you

1644
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:51,960
might be crazy well listen that's I

1645
01:10:55,790 --> 01:10:53,280
think something that I really respect

1646
01:10:57,169 --> 01:10:55,800
out of the way that George has taught me

1647
01:10:59,209 --> 01:10:57,179
to come and approach one of the things

1648
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,219
that George said to me is that every

1649
01:11:03,229 --> 01:11:01,199
Source if it seems good too good to be

1650
01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,239
true dig deeper dig deeper and he's

1651
01:11:07,729 --> 01:11:05,340
constantly said that so it's like the

1652
01:11:10,850 --> 01:11:07,739
idea that no matter how much information

1653
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:10,860
we get you should always have some sort

1654
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,440
of healthy skepticism to keep a clear

1655
01:11:18,169 --> 01:11:16,080
lens you know for what you're doing is

1656
01:11:19,970 --> 01:11:18,179
that what you would would you agree with

1657
01:11:22,010 --> 01:11:19,980
that that is absolutely true I thought

1658
01:11:23,810 --> 01:11:22,020
this trip might be different because of

1659
01:11:25,910 --> 01:11:23,820
Rob because the experiences that he's

1660
01:11:29,450 --> 01:11:25,920
had that maybe this time we'd come and

1661
01:11:34,330 --> 01:11:29,460
they'd say oh well it's Rob we know no

1662
01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:36,709
see last time was me this time you were

1663
01:11:45,050 --> 01:11:39,060
there no I I understand that I'm I'm

1664
01:11:50,450 --> 01:11:47,689
what is it that you are trying to give

1665
01:11:51,890 --> 01:11:50,460
to people about this experience that

1666
01:11:54,410 --> 01:11:51,900
you've gone through for 20 years why do

1667
01:11:56,209 --> 01:11:54,420
you want this out now

1668
01:11:58,430 --> 01:11:56,219
well I mean what I've got out of it is

1669
01:11:59,689 --> 01:11:58,440
sort of what Dr Colin Kelleher got out

1670
01:12:01,970 --> 01:11:59,699
of it and some of the other people with

1671
01:12:05,450 --> 01:12:01,980
nids who are involved in the study both

1672
01:12:06,290 --> 01:12:05,460
as nids and then at as bass

1673
01:12:09,050 --> 01:12:06,300
um

1674
01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:09,060
that it seems to be a an overarching

1675
01:12:13,790 --> 01:12:11,880
lesson of the universe is more

1676
01:12:15,649 --> 01:12:13,800
mysterious and wondrous and complicated

1677
01:12:17,870 --> 01:12:15,659
than we imagine that reality itself

1678
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:17,880
isn't what it used to be that

1679
01:12:22,010 --> 01:12:28,790
[Music]

1680
01:12:32,990 --> 01:12:31,370
now first and foremost you know it's an

1681
01:12:35,630 --> 01:12:33,000
honor to go there not many people get to

1682
01:12:39,410 --> 01:12:35,640
go there and we had the best time

1683
01:12:40,209 --> 01:12:39,420
because we like each other and it's fun

1684
01:12:43,729 --> 01:12:40,219
um

1685
01:12:45,410 --> 01:12:43,739
and also you get to go to the place that

1686
01:12:50,270 --> 01:12:45,420
you've read so much about and heard so

1687
01:12:51,950 --> 01:12:50,280
many podcasts and interviews about now

1688
01:12:53,570 --> 01:12:51,960
so we're we're just having a great time

1689
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:53,580
and then it's night time and then

1690
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:55,440
there's a fire built and we get around

1691
01:13:01,010 --> 01:12:58,800
tell stories fun fun fun fun and the

1692
01:13:03,169 --> 01:13:01,020
homesteads and all that's creepy and uh

1693
01:13:06,590 --> 01:13:03,179
fun fun fun fun fun

1694
01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:06,600
and what actually happens is like I I

1695
01:13:11,930 --> 01:13:09,420
found the most bizarre place while I was

1696
01:13:14,510 --> 01:13:11,940
there was the place that we were

1697
01:13:16,850 --> 01:13:14,520
chilling in most of the day which is

1698
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:16,860
that the middle Homestead like a prefab

1699
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:23,810
I found the weirdest place would be in

1700
01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:26,400
there but we're all safe we're all safe

1701
01:13:31,370 --> 01:13:28,620
aren't we because there's like seven of

1702
01:13:34,430 --> 01:13:31,380
us and two of them have got machine guns

1703
01:13:37,810 --> 01:13:34,440
yeah yeah we'll we'll just fire at the

1704
01:13:41,810 --> 01:13:37,820
mess yeah yeah and um so

1705
01:13:44,209 --> 01:13:41,820
my first thought is oh nothing's

1706
01:13:47,630 --> 01:13:44,219
happened my second thought is yeah

1707
01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:47,640
nothing's happened you know because

1708
01:13:51,770 --> 01:13:49,920
um I don't want The Hitchhikers you know

1709
01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:51,780
I don't want to I don't want to take

1710
01:13:57,970 --> 01:13:54,360
anything home with me I'm you know I'm a

1711
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:57,980
mess as enough without taking some

1712
01:14:01,790 --> 01:14:00,239
demonic Force home with me yeah we've

1713
01:14:04,430 --> 01:14:01,800
heard all these stories about that stuff

1714
01:14:06,410 --> 01:14:04,440
we you know and you and me we know ever

1715
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,420
no one would want that but that wasn't

1716
01:14:10,370 --> 01:14:08,640
we're not really ex expecting anything

1717
01:14:12,290 --> 01:14:10,380
but we're definitely heard the stories

1718
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:12,300
yeah we definitely are the story yeah oh

1719
01:14:17,390 --> 01:14:13,679
yeah yeah we know we know the stories

1720
01:14:19,130 --> 01:14:17,400
inside out and so we get in the car to

1721
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:19,140
go back to the motel

1722
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:22,560
on the last night and Jeremy's in the

1723
01:14:26,450 --> 01:14:23,520
car

1724
01:14:29,810 --> 01:14:26,460
and there's a sense of relief I have a

1725
01:14:31,790 --> 01:14:29,820
sense of relief and uh I'm like I'm

1726
01:14:34,430 --> 01:14:31,800
actually feeling happy with myself that

1727
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:34,440
nothing happened after feeling sad that

1728
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:37,440
nothing happened and I go well at least

1729
01:14:41,810 --> 01:14:39,120
we didn't have any hitchi because then

1730
01:14:44,990 --> 01:14:41,820
Jeremy and you were like yeah whatever

1731
01:14:48,350 --> 01:14:45,000
it was that you said and then Neil who's

1732
01:14:52,610 --> 01:14:48,360
my security that has you know I mean

1733
01:14:55,070 --> 01:14:52,620
he's been at War he's been a Wars plural

1734
01:14:58,370 --> 01:14:55,080
you know he's he's a badass he's a

1735
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:58,380
badass badass Burly lovely Ma you know

1736
01:15:02,290 --> 01:15:00,960
well Rob I didn't want to say and I'm

1737
01:15:05,689 --> 01:15:02,300
like

1738
01:15:07,310 --> 01:15:05,699
anyway we were in the homestead and I

1739
01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:07,320
think it was when you went to the lou

1740
01:15:12,050 --> 01:15:09,719
the toilet or whatever

1741
01:15:14,810 --> 01:15:12,060
you you came out he says when Jeremy

1742
01:15:15,530 --> 01:15:14,820
came out there was this eight foot

1743
01:15:17,630 --> 01:15:15,540
um

1744
01:15:20,570 --> 01:15:17,640
uh black

1745
01:15:23,450 --> 01:15:20,580
Mist like figure that followed you out

1746
01:15:26,510 --> 01:15:23,460
of the toilet creates yeah just great

1747
01:15:28,850 --> 01:15:26,520
and uh so that was that was the one bit

1748
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:28,860
of woo that happened and that one bit of

1749
01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:32,000
woo led to me and you

1750
01:15:37,550 --> 01:15:34,800
what was interesting was because you

1751
01:15:40,850 --> 01:15:37,560
know with your weaponize your curiosity

1752
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:40,860
still for now excited and how involved

1753
01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:43,920
you are with everything was that um

1754
01:15:50,209 --> 01:15:47,219
you're as terrified as me yeah we were

1755
01:15:52,910 --> 01:15:50,219
both we were both sort of like

1756
01:15:55,850 --> 01:15:52,920
you know it's like I I Look to You to to

1757
01:15:58,910 --> 01:15:55,860
not be scared and you were terrified too

1758
01:16:00,530 --> 01:15:58,920
look mercifully I you know I I my back

1759
01:16:02,270 --> 01:16:00,540
is always turned when the cool [\h__\h]

1760
01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:02,280
happens mercifully I think I'd [\h__\h]

1761
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:04,320
freak out I didn't see this to be clear

1762
01:16:07,610 --> 01:16:06,000
I didn't see this but I do remember

1763
01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:07,620
walking up to the table and you're all

1764
01:16:11,870 --> 01:16:10,140
sitting there Neil's eyes were [\h__\h]

1765
01:16:13,729 --> 01:16:11,880
huge and this is like a tough guy and

1766
01:16:15,410 --> 01:16:13,739
the guy's seen a lot in his life he's

1767
01:16:16,910 --> 01:16:15,420
like we're leaving now I didn't know

1768
01:16:18,890 --> 01:16:16,920
maybe he was hungry or something we're

1769
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:18,900
like let's go but that story was

1770
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:21,060
conveyed to us and and it really did

1771
01:16:26,510 --> 01:16:23,280
kind of spook us because we didn't see

1772
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:26,520
it but this guy I mean he's dead serious

1773
01:16:31,729 --> 01:16:28,880
he saw that I think he saw it go into

1774
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:31,739
the trailer no it was following he said

1775
01:16:35,209 --> 01:16:33,360
it was I know it followed you out of the

1776
01:16:37,729 --> 01:16:35,219
bathroom but I think you saw it earlier

1777
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,739
go into the trailer as well I I don't

1778
01:16:41,450 --> 01:16:39,120
know it's just that that kind of thing

1779
01:16:43,310 --> 01:16:41,460
has been reported at the ranch maybe I'm

1780
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:43,320
not like you know I just didn't see

1781
01:16:47,870 --> 01:16:45,120
anything like that but just the idea

1782
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:47,880
that he was shaken up by it and and saw

1783
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:49,679
that was like we gotta go that's amazing

1784
01:16:53,330 --> 01:16:51,840
to me you know but I I didn't see it I

1785
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:53,340
wish I had seen something like that in

1786
01:16:58,189 --> 01:16:55,920
my life if I had seen an experience like

1787
01:17:00,050 --> 01:16:58,199
like you have had with this thing right

1788
01:17:01,430 --> 01:17:00,060
over you I did end up seeing something

1789
01:17:04,370 --> 01:17:01,440
pretty cool once with this guy Dave

1790
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,380
Foley right but um I guess when you when

1791
01:17:07,790 --> 01:17:06,000
you have those experiences maybe they're

1792
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:07,800
personalized was there anything else you

1793
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:09,360
you've never had an experience have you

1794
01:17:13,550 --> 01:17:11,460
no not at the ranch nothing that I've

1795
01:17:15,410 --> 01:17:13,560
seen but I did bring something home you

1796
01:17:18,290 --> 01:17:15,420
know my wife saw yeah that she had

1797
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:18,300
similar to what Bigelow Bob Bigelow has

1798
01:17:22,850 --> 01:17:21,120
has happened and Colin Kelleher's had

1799
01:17:25,310 --> 01:17:22,860
happened they don't see it on the ranch

1800
01:17:27,229 --> 01:17:25,320
but it comes home and messes with other

1801
01:17:29,570 --> 01:17:27,239
members of the family did you have any

1802
01:17:30,770 --> 01:17:29,580
hitchhiker stuff that happened nothing

1803
01:17:32,450 --> 01:17:30,780
nothing

1804
01:17:35,149 --> 01:17:32,460
yeah you're not answering that question

1805
01:17:36,050 --> 01:17:35,159
not answering that

1806
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:36,060
um

1807
01:17:41,930 --> 01:17:38,400
and and what category do you put that in

1808
01:17:43,729 --> 01:17:41,940
is alien Poltergeist strange what what

1809
01:17:46,010 --> 01:17:43,739
is it what would you think the more you

1810
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:46,020
find out the less you know yeah yeah and

1811
01:17:51,050 --> 01:17:48,480
you know I've been a devotee and I

1812
01:17:53,090 --> 01:17:51,060
suppose a student of all of this for the

1813
01:17:54,370 --> 01:17:53,100
longest time and it's been concentrated

1814
01:17:58,850 --> 01:17:54,380
from

1815
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:58,860
2003 onwards and um I'm none the wiser

1816
01:18:05,229 --> 01:18:01,920
would you go back to Skinwalker yeah

1817
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:05,239
yeah of course yeah yeah

1818
01:18:09,890 --> 01:18:07,860
you can maybe make that happen yeah I

1819
01:18:11,750 --> 01:18:09,900
mean this you know this stuff that for

1820
01:18:13,729 --> 01:18:11,760
me it was really hard I was like you

1821
01:18:15,649 --> 01:18:13,739
know really nuts and bolts about it like

1822
01:18:17,630 --> 01:18:15,659
hey are there I was interested in Bob

1823
01:18:20,270 --> 01:18:17,640
Lazar like this idea of propulsion

1824
01:18:23,330 --> 01:18:20,280
that's that's all I really you know kind

1825
01:18:26,330 --> 01:18:23,340
of cared about was are there craft that

1826
01:18:28,850 --> 01:18:26,340
are Advanced and like but over these

1827
01:18:30,590 --> 01:18:28,860
years and hearing all of these stories

1828
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:30,600
and again I haven't experienced anything

1829
01:18:36,110 --> 01:18:33,600
quite like what other people have seen I

1830
01:18:38,750 --> 01:18:36,120
gotta keep my mind open to it that this

1831
01:18:42,410 --> 01:18:38,760
UFO thing that it it's bigger it might

1832
01:18:44,209 --> 01:18:42,420
be bigger than just physical craft I

1833
01:18:47,209 --> 01:18:44,219
don't know the answer I never claim to

1834
01:18:49,970 --> 01:18:47,219
know the answer but it's it's kind of

1835
01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:49,980
I'm reluctantly looking at this subject

1836
01:18:54,890 --> 01:18:52,380
matter and saying I can't dismiss stuff

1837
01:18:56,450 --> 01:18:54,900
just because people shame you for it I

1838
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:56,460
can't dismiss stuff just because people

1839
01:19:01,130 --> 01:18:59,040
don't fit that in their world view and

1840
01:19:03,649 --> 01:19:01,140
you know it say that it's nonsense I I

1841
01:19:04,729 --> 01:19:03,659
go based upon the experiences I have and

1842
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:04,739
the people that I know and if I find

1843
01:19:11,330 --> 01:19:07,199
them trustworthy right in this UFO field

1844
01:19:13,970 --> 01:19:11,340
you need to you need to have a good

1845
01:19:15,709 --> 01:19:13,980
sense of who it is that you can trust

1846
01:19:18,290 --> 01:19:15,719
and that's the hardest thing there's so

1847
01:19:20,689 --> 01:19:18,300
much wacky [\h__\h] out there a lot of

1848
01:19:22,970 --> 01:19:20,699
craziness is attached to this it does

1849
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:22,980
it's like a magnet for mental Insanity

1850
01:19:28,010 --> 01:19:25,020
absolutely because it's so [\h__\h] weird

1851
01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:28,020
but there's just so much evidence that

1852
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:30,480
there's more to this than just hard

1853
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:33,600
physical craft and so it's just um yeah

1854
01:19:38,510 --> 01:19:36,719
I I think that where I was in 2003 is

1855
01:19:41,450 --> 01:19:38,520
Little Green Men visit you in spaceships

1856
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,460
yeah I'm no longer in that right it's

1857
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:43,440
weirder than that it's way weird and

1858
01:19:50,270 --> 01:19:46,800
that and and and maybe way more weird

1859
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:50,280
than we can comprehend yeah

1860
01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:52,500
um this fell into our laps it felt like

1861
01:19:57,229 --> 01:19:54,840
a gift from heaven when I hear the news

1862
01:19:59,450 --> 01:19:57,239
that Robbie Williams is going to come to

1863
01:20:02,149 --> 01:19:59,460
Las Vegas and have a residency there

1864
01:20:05,870 --> 01:20:02,159
fastest sellout of a residency in the

1865
01:20:08,030 --> 01:20:05,880
history of Las Vegas you're at the win

1866
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:08,040
um we get to see a couple of those shows

1867
01:20:13,850 --> 01:20:11,040
it was over the top this production who

1868
01:20:16,130 --> 01:20:13,860
was elaborate it was gigantic it was a

1869
01:20:19,370 --> 01:20:16,140
huge success in every way but you didn't

1870
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:19,380
do it again was it did you overdo it

1871
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:22,800
what was the covered yeah took the ass

1872
01:20:28,850 --> 01:20:26,159
out of it you know because the

1873
01:20:31,490 --> 01:20:28,860
the plan was to invest in it I don't

1874
01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:31,500
mean financially it just means spend

1875
01:20:36,110 --> 01:20:34,080
more time in North America building up

1876
01:20:37,490 --> 01:20:36,120
this show and

1877
01:20:40,010 --> 01:20:37,500
um you know

1878
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:40,020
maybe taking it to Caesars and plotting

1879
01:20:45,470 --> 01:20:43,920
up there which is a bigger Arena

1880
01:20:48,350 --> 01:20:45,480
um but that's going to take some work

1881
01:20:51,649 --> 01:20:48,360
because I I'm I'm not known here you

1882
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:51,659
know but I was invested into my ego

1883
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:54,000
wanted a bit of America

1884
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:57,120
um when covid came it just took two

1885
01:21:00,590 --> 01:20:59,760
years off the process

1886
01:21:02,990 --> 01:21:00,600
um

1887
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:03,000
which was a shame and then by the time

1888
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:04,800
we come out of covid

1889
01:21:10,910 --> 01:21:08,880
I didn't have the impetus to invest what

1890
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:10,920
I was going to invest emotionally and

1891
01:21:15,470 --> 01:21:13,440
physically into doing the project we

1892
01:21:18,830 --> 01:21:15,480
keep an eye on your career course from

1893
01:21:21,350 --> 01:21:18,840
afar you'll go to Poland and play to 80

1894
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:21,360
000 people you're in Argentina Asia

1895
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:24,239
Australia everywhere you're a huge huge

1896
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:27,360
success massive crowds it hasn't

1897
01:21:31,130 --> 01:21:29,280
happened here

1898
01:21:32,990 --> 01:21:31,140
um in part I thought in the beginning it

1899
01:21:35,209 --> 01:21:33,000
was because you didn't really want to be

1900
01:21:36,530 --> 01:21:35,219
as well known

1901
01:21:38,750 --> 01:21:36,540
um you wanted to be able to go to a

1902
01:21:40,970 --> 01:21:38,760
restaurant have a hamburger whatever but

1903
01:21:44,689 --> 01:21:40,980
knowing how competitive you are you

1904
01:21:50,090 --> 01:21:47,810
yes and no you know if I did want to

1905
01:21:53,649 --> 01:21:50,100
conquer America

1906
01:21:56,510 --> 01:21:53,659
I would at least attempt it

1907
01:21:58,669 --> 01:21:56,520
you know having a residency at the win

1908
01:22:00,669 --> 01:21:58,679
isn't going to do it

1909
01:22:05,630 --> 01:22:00,679
um basically

1910
01:22:08,450 --> 01:22:05,640
my mental illness and fame and Coke and

1911
01:22:11,630 --> 01:22:08,460
booze was so cute

1912
01:22:14,649 --> 01:22:11,640
at some point I did realize when the

1913
01:22:19,550 --> 01:22:14,659
grown-up was driving the car and not the

1914
01:22:22,250 --> 01:22:19,560
lunatic driving the car the more of what

1915
01:22:23,390 --> 01:22:22,260
I had at that point was not going to be

1916
01:22:29,810 --> 01:22:23,400
good for me

1917
01:22:33,290 --> 01:22:29,820
and I spent a January in Los Angeles 23

1918
01:22:34,610 --> 01:22:33,300
years ago and I could live my life I

1919
01:22:36,770 --> 01:22:34,620
could get you know it's like I could

1920
01:22:38,270 --> 01:22:36,780
enjoy the fruits of my labor and not be

1921
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,280
marbed when you go it's not even the

1922
01:22:42,890 --> 01:22:40,320
marbles you know it's like

1923
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:42,900
there's a lot of people in Britain but

1924
01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:45,360
there is a network of if you see someone

1925
01:22:51,410 --> 01:22:47,840
say it you know and if you see somebody

1926
01:22:54,050 --> 01:22:51,420
Twitter it now or tell the tabloids or

1927
01:22:56,750 --> 01:22:54,060
da da da and it seemed that I couldn't

1928
01:22:59,630 --> 01:22:56,760
you know sometimes my thoughts were in

1929
01:23:02,990 --> 01:22:59,640
the newspaper the next day it was

1930
01:23:05,390 --> 01:23:03,000
it was weird it was just so weird and I

1931
01:23:07,070 --> 01:23:05,400
just had to take myself out of that

1932
01:23:10,729 --> 01:23:07,080
pressure cooker so I came for one

1933
01:23:12,169 --> 01:23:10,739
January went back into it next January I

1934
01:23:13,610 --> 01:23:12,179
come back again and at the end of

1935
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:13,620
January I'm like what am I going back

1936
01:23:18,590 --> 01:23:16,560
for I'm going to live here and it's kind

1937
01:23:22,189 --> 01:23:18,600
of then that I was like

1938
01:23:25,850 --> 01:23:22,199
so I've got this cash I've sold these

1939
01:23:28,669 --> 01:23:25,860
records I play these venues

1940
01:23:33,229 --> 01:23:28,679
what right and it's not brought me

1941
01:23:34,729 --> 01:23:33,239
happiness if I do this in the states if

1942
01:23:36,649 --> 01:23:34,739
you're famous in America you're famous

1943
01:23:39,530 --> 01:23:36,659
in Papua New Guinea you know you're

1944
01:23:41,390 --> 01:23:39,540
famous in Timbuktu and I did recognize

1945
01:23:43,790 --> 01:23:41,400
that Fame was having a detrimental

1946
01:23:47,930 --> 01:23:43,800
effect on my health so what I decided to

1947
01:23:50,450 --> 01:23:47,940
do was move here and become Anonymous

1948
01:23:52,370 --> 01:23:50,460
um and that worked out for me my ego and

1949
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:52,380
my competitive nature Still Remains in

1950
01:23:56,930 --> 01:23:54,719
the back of my head but then when the

1951
01:23:59,090 --> 01:23:56,940
kids come and I'm a different person now

1952
01:24:01,130 --> 01:23:59,100
so well maybe I'll have a look at Vegas

1953
01:24:02,930 --> 01:24:01,140
maybe I'll see what Vegas has to offer

1954
01:24:04,850 --> 01:24:02,940
what I have to offer it and what it can

1955
01:24:06,590 --> 01:24:04,860
do for me and if something comes of it

1956
01:24:09,229 --> 01:24:06,600
something comes from it and if something

1957
01:24:10,729 --> 01:24:09,239
doesn't it's okay nothing ventured you

1958
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:10,739
know a lot ventured maybe something

1959
01:24:15,290 --> 01:24:12,719
gained

1960
01:24:17,330 --> 01:24:15,300
um my energy has now moved on from that

1961
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:17,340
you know as I I want to build my own

1962
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:20,239
hotel and I'm building my own hotel

1963
01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:23,760
hotels you know hopefully if it's a

1964
01:24:30,010 --> 01:24:26,400
success I will replicate what I'm about

1965
01:24:34,370 --> 01:24:30,020
to do residencies don't exist in Dubai

1966
01:24:36,770 --> 01:24:34,380
they should you know and um I want to be

1967
01:24:38,630 --> 01:24:36,780
the man to start that it's easier for

1968
01:24:41,330 --> 01:24:38,640
your fans to get to see you from Europe

1969
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:41,340
to Dubai than to get to Las Vegas well

1970
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:44,159
also it's it's easier for performers to

1971
01:24:50,270 --> 01:24:47,040
be in one place you know and once

1972
01:24:52,010 --> 01:24:50,280
they've rung out Vegas whereas you know

1973
01:24:54,350 --> 01:24:52,020
and they can stay there they can stay in

1974
01:24:56,689 --> 01:24:54,360
Vegas for a long time and have their

1975
01:24:59,689 --> 01:24:56,699
families be there in one place when

1976
01:25:02,330 --> 01:24:59,699
you've got kids touring's different you

1977
01:25:04,370 --> 01:25:02,340
know it would be great to invent

1978
01:25:07,010 --> 01:25:04,380
something for people like me where you

1979
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:07,020
go from Vegas to Dubai Dubai to Vegas to

1980
01:25:11,390 --> 01:25:08,159
Dubai

1981
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:11,400
you said about uh playing at the wind is

1982
01:25:15,530 --> 01:25:13,199
not enough to make a Big Splash in

1983
01:25:17,689 --> 01:25:15,540
America you did make a big splash I mean

1984
01:25:19,910 --> 01:25:17,699
it sold out immediately and you're fans

1985
01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:19,920
who'd seen you before where they could

1986
01:25:25,790 --> 01:25:23,520
be one person in a crowd of 80 000 or in

1987
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:25,800
a room where there's only 3 000 other

1988
01:25:31,010 --> 01:25:28,320
people were astonished to have that that

1989
01:25:33,169 --> 01:25:31,020
kind of access yeah it it made a splash

1990
01:25:35,450 --> 01:25:33,179
but everybody that came to the show was

1991
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:35,460
European or South America or Australian

1992
01:25:40,610 --> 01:25:37,920
you know and um because I'd ask the

1993
01:25:42,350 --> 01:25:40,620
audience each night you know who's in

1994
01:25:43,970 --> 01:25:42,360
from New Zealand who's in from Australia

1995
01:25:47,390 --> 01:25:43,980
who's in from America and there'd be

1996
01:25:49,630 --> 01:25:47,400
Americans there of course but um you

1997
01:25:52,729 --> 01:25:49,640
know it's a long way

1998
01:25:55,370 --> 01:25:52,739
for people that are into what I do to

1999
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:55,380
travel to come and see me people don't

2000
01:26:00,410 --> 01:25:58,320
know a lot of people don't know how how

2001
01:26:02,149 --> 01:26:00,420
much you're into the Las Vegas scene in

2002
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,159
terms of the history of the performers

2003
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:04,560
there you write great pop songs and

2004
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:06,960
you're known all over the world but you

2005
01:26:13,970 --> 01:26:11,040
pay homage to Dean and Frank and Sammy

2006
01:26:17,390 --> 01:26:13,980
Dean Martin's your Dean Martin's you

2007
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:17,400
know Dean Martin's my absolute hero and

2008
01:26:21,950 --> 01:26:19,920
how he has

2009
01:26:32,810 --> 01:26:21,960
always made me feel

2010
01:26:34,910 --> 01:26:32,820
safe and the the natural cool Whimsy as

2011
01:26:37,250 --> 01:26:34,920
approach to life be professionally

2012
01:26:38,810 --> 01:26:37,260
obviously I never met him but like you

2013
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:38,820
know professionally the way that he

2014
01:26:45,649 --> 01:26:41,760
makes me feel the nice and easy does it

2015
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:45,659
kind of attitude and the voice and the

2016
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:48,239
Charisma and funnies and funny you know

2017
01:26:53,689 --> 01:26:52,320
and and funny he's he's a comedian and

2018
01:26:56,689 --> 01:26:53,699
um you know

2019
01:26:58,669 --> 01:26:56,699
thank God when I was growing up there

2020
01:27:01,310 --> 01:26:58,679
was only four chat three channels

2021
01:27:02,990 --> 01:27:01,320
originally but four channels because you

2022
01:27:04,610 --> 01:27:03,000
know with if there had been these

2023
01:27:07,129 --> 01:27:04,620
countless others I'd have never got to

2024
01:27:09,290 --> 01:27:07,139
have seen those movies that he was in

2025
01:27:11,870 --> 01:27:09,300
because you know they we don't have a

2026
01:27:13,930 --> 01:27:11,880
big budget in the UK so we play repeats

2027
01:27:17,570 --> 01:27:13,940
and old movies that I suppose are cheap

2028
01:27:19,310 --> 01:27:17,580
and because of that I got to see all

2029
01:27:22,430 --> 01:27:19,320
these movies that Frank Sinatra was in

2030
01:27:25,129 --> 01:27:22,440
Sammy Davis Jr was in and

2031
01:27:27,290 --> 01:27:25,139
um fall in love with these performers

2032
01:27:28,729 --> 01:27:27,300
that had gone before me

2033
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:28,739
I was just you know when you guys are

2034
01:27:32,510 --> 01:27:30,239
talking about the Vegas show so you

2035
01:27:35,209 --> 01:27:32,520
invited us a couple times we got to go I

2036
01:27:37,310 --> 01:27:35,219
had never seen you perform live and it

2037
01:27:39,229 --> 01:27:37,320
was so [\h__\h] cool man like you know

2038
01:27:40,850 --> 01:27:39,239
your personality that comes through in

2039
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:40,860
your performances you tailor those I

2040
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:42,239
mean you're coming out of the ceiling in

2041
01:27:46,910 --> 01:27:44,880
like a pink suit with balloons I mean it

2042
01:27:48,770 --> 01:27:46,920
was pretty [\h__\h] wild you also had all

2043
01:27:50,750 --> 01:27:48,780
these displays around and it's been

2044
01:27:53,930 --> 01:27:50,760
burning question for me I went into the

2045
01:27:56,750 --> 01:27:53,940
men's room and I saw this glass case and

2046
01:28:00,050 --> 01:27:56,760
there's this big cucumber it says Rob's

2047
01:28:02,570 --> 01:28:00,060
First cucumber what the [\h__\h] was that uh

2048
01:28:09,410 --> 01:28:02,580
this is my wife's doing

2049
01:28:12,890 --> 01:28:09,420
so she she decided to put all these

2050
01:28:14,870 --> 01:28:12,900
cases and silly it's an inside joke

2051
01:28:16,750 --> 01:28:14,880
do you know what I'm not even going to

2052
01:28:20,030 --> 01:28:16,760
explain I don't need it it's a mystery

2053
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:20,040
it's nothing sexual okay it's completely

2054
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:22,320
not sexual but it's just so embarrassing

2055
01:28:25,250 --> 01:28:23,760
I just wonder what your second cucumber

2056
01:28:26,990 --> 01:28:25,260
was but whatever that's cool yeah so

2057
01:28:28,490 --> 01:28:27,000
your whole thing was was so neat though

2058
01:28:31,250 --> 01:28:28,500
because the style of music you were

2059
01:28:35,330 --> 01:28:31,260
playing was given homage to Las Vegas

2060
01:28:39,169 --> 01:28:35,340
you know like yeah people like me my age

2061
01:28:41,870 --> 01:28:39,179
range and younger uh they're sort of

2062
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:41,880
Cabaret has a bad rep

2063
01:28:50,030 --> 01:28:46,560
and um I'm a cabaret artist my what I do

2064
01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:50,040
is Cabaret and I take great pride and

2065
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:52,080
great you know I have great respect to

2066
01:28:59,450 --> 01:28:54,719
Cabrio as it have been before me to be

2067
01:29:03,050 --> 01:28:59,460
in the home of Cabaret uh meant that I

2068
01:29:06,110 --> 01:29:03,060
was going to embrace that fully and um I

2069
01:29:08,390 --> 01:29:06,120
I I did for me Cabaret is not a dirty

2070
01:29:11,450 --> 01:29:08,400
word there is no

2071
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:11,460
um guilty what's the word guilty love or

2072
01:29:16,129 --> 01:29:13,679
what's the uh guilty pleasure yeah yeah

2073
01:29:19,129 --> 01:29:16,139
there's no guilty pleasure this is uh

2074
01:29:21,050 --> 01:29:19,139
this is a high art for me that that I

2075
01:29:22,850 --> 01:29:21,060
love completely you're opening out out

2076
01:29:24,590 --> 01:29:22,860
of the closet about loving and

2077
01:29:26,689 --> 01:29:24,600
Performing Cabaret oh yeah yeah

2078
01:29:29,090 --> 01:29:26,699
absolutely yes it was like two months

2079
01:29:31,970 --> 01:29:29,100
after you your engagement in Las Vegas

2080
01:29:34,010 --> 01:29:31,980
ended in this it's a really nice

2081
01:29:36,229 --> 01:29:34,020
facility the showroom at the wind it's

2082
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:36,239
great but it's small by Robbie Williams

2083
01:29:41,090 --> 01:29:38,639
standards it's like two months later we

2084
01:29:42,410 --> 01:29:41,100
get video of you performing it's a

2085
01:29:44,090 --> 01:29:42,420
hundred thousand people I think it was

2086
01:29:47,870 --> 01:29:44,100
net worth or somewhere like that no it's

2087
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:47,880
a 125 000 people in Munich yeah and then

2088
01:29:54,290 --> 01:29:50,400
I see a video a couple of months after

2089
01:29:57,050 --> 01:29:54,300
that Taylor Swift is is in Europe in the

2090
01:29:58,610 --> 01:29:57,060
UK so cool and this clip she's she's

2091
01:30:00,649 --> 01:29:58,620
playing the piano she's got this Sly

2092
01:30:02,390 --> 01:30:00,659
look on her face and up through the

2093
01:30:05,629 --> 01:30:02,400
middle of the stage comes Robbie

2094
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:05,639
Williams Crowd Goes Crazy introduces her

2095
01:30:10,910 --> 01:30:08,400
fans to you gives her credibility too

2096
01:30:13,490 --> 01:30:10,920
with your fans uh you know it was a it

2097
01:30:15,709 --> 01:30:13,500
was a wonderful wonderful moment you

2098
01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:15,719
know to um

2099
01:30:20,270 --> 01:30:18,480
to be yeah it was just a wonderful

2100
01:30:23,870 --> 01:30:20,280
moment that somebody like Taylor Swift

2101
01:30:26,810 --> 01:30:23,880
even knew I was invited me to the show I

2102
01:30:29,330 --> 01:30:26,820
come up the the energy in the place was

2103
01:30:32,030 --> 01:30:29,340
different incredibly different in the

2104
01:30:35,209 --> 01:30:32,040
best way possible and we sang one of my

2105
01:30:37,310 --> 01:30:35,219
songs and uh yeah I'm grateful that she

2106
01:30:40,010 --> 01:30:37,320
asked me yeah that was so cool to see I

2107
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:40,020
mean I'm a Taylor Swift fan as well and

2108
01:30:43,550 --> 01:30:41,760
seeing you come up out of that stage and

2109
01:30:46,490 --> 01:30:43,560
do that before that was cool man I think

2110
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:46,500
that's my buddy right there yeah so many

2111
01:30:50,689 --> 01:30:48,000
of the songs you write you're pretty

2112
01:30:53,330 --> 01:30:50,699
tough on yourself I mean you're tough

2113
01:30:56,390 --> 01:30:53,340
you called yourself scum in one show

2114
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:56,400
there was uh in one song it was socio

2115
01:31:01,250 --> 01:30:59,520
meaning sociopath and in your lyrics is

2116
01:31:03,950 --> 01:31:01,260
it a mood where I'm gonna slap myself

2117
01:31:06,290 --> 01:31:03,960
around here and there or uh well my

2118
01:31:09,470 --> 01:31:06,300
songs are all biographical and I write

2119
01:31:11,570 --> 01:31:09,480
about what I know because the you know

2120
01:31:15,050 --> 01:31:11,580
there's not a lot that I know other than

2121
01:31:19,129 --> 01:31:15,060
me and a bit about UFOs

2122
01:31:21,830 --> 01:31:19,139
um so there is a a intricate dance that

2123
01:31:24,770 --> 01:31:21,840
I do with myself and it depends which

2124
01:31:29,470 --> 01:31:24,780
wolf you want to feed and uh whether

2125
01:31:33,950 --> 01:31:29,480
that's the empathic kind generous

2126
01:31:37,810 --> 01:31:33,960
loving spirit that I can inhabit or the

2127
01:31:41,149 --> 01:31:37,820
other side which is self-lacerating

2128
01:31:43,490 --> 01:31:41,159
self-sabotaging uh lack of self-worth

2129
01:31:47,090 --> 01:31:43,500
low self-esteem

2130
01:31:51,229 --> 01:31:47,100
um Dom you know there's uh there is a

2131
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:51,239
there is a dark aspect to how I feel and

2132
01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:54,719
think about myself and the dichotomy of

2133
01:32:00,290 --> 01:31:57,840
both of them naturally appears in my

2134
01:32:03,530 --> 01:32:00,300
lyrics because like I say I write about

2135
01:32:07,250 --> 01:32:05,570
um let love be your energy it's one of

2136
01:32:10,250 --> 01:32:07,260
my favorite songs of yours because it's

2137
01:32:12,350 --> 01:32:10,260
so beetle-esque did you set out to do

2138
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:12,360
that on on purpose or just I I guess so

2139
01:32:16,490 --> 01:32:15,120
at the time yeah they they you love The

2140
01:32:18,290 --> 01:32:16,500
Beatles right yeah do you love the

2141
01:32:20,030 --> 01:32:18,300
Beatles I do and he's been teaching me

2142
01:32:22,850 --> 01:32:20,040
about the Beatles for about maybe five

2143
01:32:25,490 --> 01:32:22,860
or six years now so in my car I have

2144
01:32:27,050 --> 01:32:25,500
nine discs an old changer eight of them

2145
01:32:28,490 --> 01:32:27,060
are The Beatles and one is Robbie

2146
01:32:29,810 --> 01:32:28,500
Williams he's been teachable he was

2147
01:32:33,169 --> 01:32:29,820
teaching me man and they're they're

2148
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,179
beautiful yeah so I am now a fan of The

2149
01:32:38,149 --> 01:32:35,760
Beatles Because of George and I concur

2150
01:32:40,189 --> 01:32:38,159
that uh there are some songs yours that

2151
01:32:41,629 --> 01:32:40,199
have that feel yeah and it's really

2152
01:32:43,790 --> 01:32:41,639
special like you're channeling that [\h__\h]

2153
01:32:45,890 --> 01:32:43,800
so yeah George has taught me about it I

2154
01:32:47,689 --> 01:32:45,900
just want people like me now I heard

2155
01:32:49,729 --> 01:32:47,699
that song I saw that title it's a great

2156
01:32:51,229 --> 01:32:49,739
song great fun

2157
01:32:54,229 --> 01:32:51,239
but it's true

2158
01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:54,239
yeah it it it yeah I guess so yeah yeah

2159
01:32:59,510 --> 01:32:56,880
I guess so I I think that I I wrote that

2160
01:33:02,390 --> 01:32:59,520
song which is you know doesn't exist on

2161
01:33:05,390 --> 01:33:02,400
any of my albums proper I wrote that

2162
01:33:07,790 --> 01:33:05,400
song ironically you know uh I just want

2163
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:07,800
people to like me yeah yeah I do but

2164
01:33:12,050 --> 01:33:09,840
yeah of course you know who doesn't want

2165
01:33:13,970 --> 01:33:12,060
people to like them I'm human and I need

2166
01:33:16,870 --> 01:33:13,980
to be loved just like anybody else does

2167
01:33:19,070 --> 01:33:16,880
being hated it kind of sucks

2168
01:33:22,189 --> 01:33:19,080
you know especially someone you care

2169
01:33:26,990 --> 01:33:22,199
about it is no mate it sucks you know

2170
01:33:29,450 --> 01:33:27,000
I'm just doing um I don't I don't read

2171
01:33:31,490 --> 01:33:29,460
I I tell you this story I don't read

2172
01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:31,500
comments anymore it took me a while to

2173
01:33:37,010 --> 01:33:33,920
wean off them but I'm I I'm out

2174
01:33:39,649 --> 01:33:37,020
occasionally I get stung because I just

2175
01:33:41,450 --> 01:33:39,659
find myself somehow there well your

2176
01:33:44,030 --> 01:33:41,460
friends will text you some shitty things

2177
01:33:45,950 --> 01:33:44,040
no they don't they don't but I you know

2178
01:33:47,689 --> 01:33:45,960
I I just get reminded but then they

2179
01:33:49,250 --> 01:33:47,699
shouldn't yeah they shouldn't I I just

2180
01:33:51,050 --> 01:33:49,260
get reminded every now and again that

2181
01:33:54,350 --> 01:33:51,060
it's a place that I shouldn't go and

2182
01:33:57,050 --> 01:33:54,360
visit but there was one time a long time

2183
01:33:59,209 --> 01:33:57,060
ago when I was reading the daily mail it

2184
01:34:00,290 --> 01:33:59,219
was an article about me and then there

2185
01:34:02,270 --> 01:34:00,300
was

2186
01:34:04,910 --> 01:34:02,280
loads and loads of comments underneath

2187
01:34:06,709 --> 01:34:04,920
and I read the comments and I was like I

2188
01:34:09,890 --> 01:34:06,719
was just sinking lower and lower and

2189
01:34:12,950 --> 01:34:09,900
lower as I read these

2190
01:34:14,990 --> 01:34:12,960
things about me that confirmed to me

2191
01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:15,000
that I'm an awful person somebody that

2192
01:34:18,229 --> 01:34:16,560
feels as though they're an awful person

2193
01:34:20,750 --> 01:34:18,239
anyway it was there in black and white

2194
01:34:23,689 --> 01:34:20,760
and I'm just like hang on I've got to do

2195
01:34:27,169 --> 01:34:23,699
something to get out of this

2196
01:34:29,209 --> 01:34:27,179
so I thought well who do I know that are

2197
01:34:30,649 --> 01:34:29,219
the salt of the earth that are famous

2198
01:34:33,229 --> 01:34:30,659
and I'll go and read the comment

2199
01:34:35,810 --> 01:34:33,239
sections there and if they are hated

2200
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,820
then it's just people it's just people

2201
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:37,199
being awful

2202
01:34:41,330 --> 01:34:40,080
so I picked out my two friends that are

2203
01:34:43,970 --> 01:34:41,340
famous in England

2204
01:34:46,910 --> 01:34:43,980
and um I went and read the comment

2205
01:34:49,550 --> 01:34:46,920
section seven second comments in uh I

2206
01:34:52,129 --> 01:34:49,560
hate these two almost as much as I hate

2207
01:34:54,830 --> 01:34:52,139
that fact [\h__\h] Robbie Williams

2208
01:34:56,750 --> 01:34:54,840
I couldn't I couldn't get away from my

2209
01:34:58,189 --> 01:34:56,760
comments in somebody else's comment

2210
01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:58,199
section

2211
01:35:01,610 --> 01:35:00,000
don't you have like a song about you

2212
01:35:03,590 --> 01:35:01,620
have a lyric about the comment section

2213
01:35:05,390 --> 01:35:03,600
oh yeah it's not out yet but there's a

2214
01:35:07,850 --> 01:35:05,400
song called comment section okay yeah

2215
01:35:10,189 --> 01:35:07,860
yeah are you writing a new album yeah

2216
01:35:11,149 --> 01:35:10,199
yeah it's been it's been produced right

2217
01:35:13,669 --> 01:35:11,159
now

2218
01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:13,679
is it number 16 is it gonna happen I

2219
01:35:20,510 --> 01:35:17,760
mean well you know like you say I'm I'm

2220
01:35:23,390 --> 01:35:20,520
ultra competitive I would like it to be

2221
01:35:26,570 --> 01:35:23,400
you know I I think there's those

2222
01:35:30,290 --> 01:35:26,580
those sort of things what happens is

2223
01:35:33,350 --> 01:35:30,300
they just Stave off

2224
01:35:37,189 --> 01:35:33,360
um feelings of lack of self-worth so

2225
01:35:40,430 --> 01:35:37,199
there's no great punch the sky moment

2226
01:35:42,410 --> 01:35:40,440
when it happens but what does happen is

2227
01:35:44,450 --> 01:35:42,420
thank God I don't have to hate myself

2228
01:35:46,970 --> 01:35:44,460
today thank God that they've not

2229
01:35:49,669 --> 01:35:46,980
deserted me left me because without them

2230
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:49,679
who am I and I know that's not a very

2231
01:35:57,110 --> 01:35:53,760
safe place to be or a very uh mature or

2232
01:36:00,649 --> 01:35:57,120
mentally sound place to be but a lot of

2233
01:36:05,030 --> 01:36:00,659
who I am is wrapped up in who I am

2234
01:36:08,990 --> 01:36:05,040
and who I am is uh belongs a lot to the

2235
01:36:11,330 --> 01:36:09,000
general public in places that no one

2236
01:36:13,669 --> 01:36:11,340
of my favorite songs of yours I'm not

2237
01:36:15,169 --> 01:36:13,679
sure that American audiences know it but

2238
01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:15,179
run it Wild

2239
01:36:19,850 --> 01:36:18,000
terrific when you write these songs do

2240
01:36:23,149 --> 01:36:19,860
you know if it's going to hit or not

2241
01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:23,159
like Angels Angels is like this gigantic

2242
01:36:26,930 --> 01:36:24,960
it's an incredible as you're writing

2243
01:36:29,149 --> 01:36:26,940
that song do you know this is going to

2244
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:29,159
be a big one well at the time that I

2245
01:36:33,770 --> 01:36:31,679
wrote Angels there was a lot there was a

2246
01:36:36,410 --> 01:36:33,780
huge gap between

2247
01:36:38,810 --> 01:36:36,420
um it being a hit and me being able to

2248
01:36:41,750 --> 01:36:38,820
facilitate how it becomes a hit because

2249
01:36:43,550 --> 01:36:41,760
what happened was I left the band I was

2250
01:36:46,669 --> 01:36:43,560
cool for three seconds for splitting up

2251
01:36:49,970 --> 01:36:46,679
a boy band and then I Disappeared into

2252
01:36:51,830 --> 01:36:49,980
you know lager and cocaine and was

2253
01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:51,840
turning up to the opening of an envelope

2254
01:36:56,330 --> 01:36:54,480
and I became kind of the book of jokes

2255
01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:56,340
and

2256
01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:59,280
um my future didn't look bright

2257
01:37:03,649 --> 01:37:01,199
but while my future was not looking

2258
01:37:06,350 --> 01:37:03,659
bright in the media I was writing songs

2259
01:37:10,430 --> 01:37:06,360
and I knew that I had something

2260
01:37:12,169 --> 01:37:10,440
incredibly special with this song Angels

2261
01:37:17,330 --> 01:37:12,179
um but

2262
01:37:19,970 --> 01:37:17,340
were the media and was radio going to

2263
01:37:22,970 --> 01:37:19,980
facilitate the opportunity for that song

2264
01:37:25,010 --> 01:37:22,980
to be a success I didn't know

2265
01:37:27,649 --> 01:37:25,020
as it happens

2266
01:37:31,490 --> 01:37:27,659
the power of the song

2267
01:37:32,810 --> 01:37:31,500
happened anyway you know so yes I knew

2268
01:37:36,830 --> 01:37:32,820
that there was something incredibly

2269
01:37:40,189 --> 01:37:36,840
special I've probably written

2270
01:37:42,410 --> 01:37:40,199
700 800 songs since then I've never felt

2271
01:37:43,070 --> 01:37:42,420
that way since

2272
01:37:46,490 --> 01:37:43,080
um

2273
01:37:48,410 --> 01:37:46,500
I've never I've never managed to re you

2274
01:37:50,330 --> 01:37:48,420
because for the American audience there

2275
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:50,340
weren't No Angels but for everywhere

2276
01:37:57,770 --> 01:37:54,719
else it exists outside of me it's um now

2277
01:38:01,910 --> 01:37:57,780
it doesn't belong to me it belongs

2278
01:38:03,830 --> 01:38:01,920
somewhere in ethereal place that um has

2279
01:38:06,350 --> 01:38:03,840
done something bigger than I could ever

2280
01:38:08,510 --> 01:38:06,360
imagine it's affected a lot of people I

2281
01:38:10,970 --> 01:38:08,520
mean your music has but that song you

2282
01:38:12,590 --> 01:38:10,980
see people crying and fainting over that

2283
01:38:14,030 --> 01:38:12,600
song like what what do you think it is

2284
01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:14,040
in that song that affected so many

2285
01:38:18,830 --> 01:38:16,800
people well you know people think that

2286
01:38:21,169 --> 01:38:18,840
it's about my mum or people think that

2287
01:38:23,330 --> 01:38:21,179
it's about uh

2288
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:23,340
somebody or something it's actually

2289
01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:24,719
about angels

2290
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:27,360
it's actually about Saint Michael you

2291
01:38:33,169 --> 01:38:29,760
know it's actually about Gabriel

2292
01:38:34,370 --> 01:38:33,179
to actually you know and once again I'll

2293
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:34,380
say

2294
01:38:40,070 --> 01:38:37,920
do I have a belief in angels

2295
01:38:42,770 --> 01:38:40,080
I don't have a belief in angels I love

2296
01:38:46,250 --> 01:38:42,780
the idea of angels

2297
01:38:48,830 --> 01:38:46,260
um now it's not lost on me

2298
01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:48,840
that the most powerful song I've ever

2299
01:38:52,729 --> 01:38:49,679
had

2300
01:38:55,669 --> 01:38:52,739
is about an Angelic Force

2301
01:38:58,490 --> 01:38:55,679
uh maybe there's something in that

2302
01:39:00,169 --> 01:38:58,500
we had a chance to meet your dad uh you

2303
01:39:01,669 --> 01:39:00,179
you brought him to Las Vegas to perform

2304
01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:01,679
with you that's it's one of the

2305
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:03,600
highlights of the show

2306
01:39:06,410 --> 01:39:05,040
um the fact that you're so close to your

2307
01:39:08,990 --> 01:39:06,420
dad and you're able to bring him along

2308
01:39:09,770 --> 01:39:09,000
and he obviously gets a big kick out of

2309
01:39:11,570 --> 01:39:09,780
it

2310
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:11,580
we have had a chance to meet your wife

2311
01:39:17,149 --> 01:39:14,880
you now have four kids it feels like

2312
01:39:19,010 --> 01:39:17,159
you're on such Solid Ground and you've

2313
01:39:21,890 --> 01:39:19,020
been through like a meat grinder

2314
01:39:24,649 --> 01:39:21,900
and Rob has emerged not exactly

2315
01:39:27,050 --> 01:39:24,659
unscathed but solid on the other end

2316
01:39:30,830 --> 01:39:27,060
we're so happy for you thank you very

2317
01:39:31,810 --> 01:39:30,840
much thank you yeah yeah I'm um look you

2318
01:39:34,610 --> 01:39:31,820
know

2319
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:34,620
I'm finding that what happens with life

2320
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:37,920
or my life is that you spend the second

2321
01:39:42,490 --> 01:39:39,840
20 years of your life figuring out the

2322
01:39:46,430 --> 01:39:42,500
first 20 years but then what happens is

2323
01:39:47,689 --> 01:39:46,440
once I've hit my stride the wheels start

2324
01:39:49,550 --> 01:39:47,699
falling off for the people that have

2325
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:49,560
gone before me it's under health

2326
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:52,639
deteriorates of the people that I love

2327
01:39:59,149 --> 01:39:56,400
so you know the next sort of phase of

2328
01:40:03,110 --> 01:39:59,159
personal growth is dealing with grief

2329
01:40:04,310 --> 01:40:03,120
and dealing with illness and I I find

2330
01:40:09,890 --> 01:40:04,320
the

2331
01:40:11,810 --> 01:40:09,900
brutality of existence

2332
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:11,820
[Laughter]

2333
01:40:16,490 --> 01:40:13,920
there's the Tabloid headline for

2334
01:40:18,350 --> 01:40:16,500
tomorrow and then in a British press the

2335
01:40:19,970 --> 01:40:18,360
great quote I I gotta say man I really

2336
01:40:22,129 --> 01:40:19,980
appreciate it I I've learned a lot from

2337
01:40:23,810 --> 01:40:22,139
you through our friendship uh just you

2338
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:23,820
know when we talk and everything you've

2339
01:40:27,470 --> 01:40:24,960
been through a lot of things in your

2340
01:40:29,810 --> 01:40:27,480
life that might have been extreme but

2341
01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:29,820
somehow you've been able to ground

2342
01:40:34,010 --> 01:40:32,159
yourself and your life and the way that

2343
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:34,020
you live it I really have learned a lot

2344
01:40:37,129 --> 01:40:35,280
from what I've been through some hard

2345
01:40:39,470 --> 01:40:37,139
times if I've asked you you've you've

2346
01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:39,480
it's almost just like you've experienced

2347
01:40:43,310 --> 01:40:41,280
depths of that that you can convey

2348
01:40:45,290 --> 01:40:43,320
really easily to me a way to look at it

2349
01:40:46,850 --> 01:40:45,300
like those guys are cons [\h__\h] them you

2350
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:46,860
know whatever it might be that I need to

2351
01:40:50,510 --> 01:40:48,000
hear at that time and I want to thank

2352
01:40:51,890 --> 01:40:50,520
you for that so I think the way that we

2353
01:40:53,510 --> 01:40:51,900
influence people sometimes it's in big

2354
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,520
ways like with your music and the way it

2355
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:55,440
makes people feel but also the big

2356
01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:57,360
influence we have is when we've walked a

2357
01:41:00,290 --> 01:40:58,800
road like what I've learned from George

2358
01:41:02,090 --> 01:41:00,300
like you've walked Road and you can just

2359
01:41:04,610 --> 01:41:02,100
convey that to the person closest to you

2360
01:41:07,550 --> 01:41:04,620
so I don't know man people say your

2361
01:41:08,990 --> 01:41:07,560
greatest uh lesson in life you can you

2362
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:09,000
can give to people is the way you live

2363
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:11,520
it and and people can see that and try

2364
01:41:16,189 --> 01:41:13,679
to emulate from that attraction rather

2365
01:41:18,410 --> 01:41:16,199
than promotion what to explain that well

2366
01:41:22,010 --> 01:41:18,420
you know instead of promoting yourself

2367
01:41:26,810 --> 01:41:22,020
like a lot of people do

2368
01:41:29,390 --> 01:41:26,820
um these days well since time existed

2369
01:41:32,450 --> 01:41:29,400
um promoting yourself I am this I am

2370
01:41:34,430 --> 01:41:32,460
that I am the other you know just by the

2371
01:41:37,129 --> 01:41:34,440
way that you are you attract that's

2372
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:37,139
right and also just doing doing it doing

2373
01:41:42,770 --> 01:41:39,360
things rather than saying things right

2374
01:41:44,450 --> 01:41:42,780
yeah yeah by the uh the the content of

2375
01:41:46,850 --> 01:41:44,460
your actions there we go yeah rather

2376
01:41:48,290 --> 01:41:46,860
than your words excellent yeah thanks so

2377
01:41:50,330 --> 01:41:48,300
much for your friendship Rob yeah

2378
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:50,340
wishing nothing but the best man and the

2379
01:41:57,170 --> 01:42:03,709
[Music]

2380
01:42:11,709 --> 01:42:08,030
never have so few had so much to tell

2381
01:42:13,609 --> 01:42:11,719
but could say so little

2382
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:13,619
following this little weaponize the

2383
01:42:16,970 --> 01:42:15,360
presentation of Jeremy Corbell George

2384
01:42:19,189 --> 01:42:16,980
Knapp Dark Horse entertainment and

2385
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:19,199
Cadence 13 Studios available now for